Moses Williams is an 18-year-old Social/Self-Pres 5w6 who is also on the autism spectrum. Moses describes growing up feeling that adults were hiding the truth, that essential information was missing, and that everyone else somehow knew how to be human in a way he didn’t. We talk about his often obsessive fascination with taboo topics—pornography, sexual deviance, violence—not to provoke, but to answer the horrifying question: “Am I stupid for not knowing this already?” He recounts a personal collapse that left him with three options: become a sanitized version of himself, disappear entirely, or dismantle and reform collective assumptions entirely. This conversation also explores intellectual separatism, the pressure to adapt to norms that feel senseless, and the slow, reluctant emergence of a heart that wants something real. This episode contains references to pornography, sexual deviance, and suicide. Listener discretion advised.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@houseofenneagram⁩


TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

02:56 - Introduction to enneagram, being a loner, interested in psychology to understand people

06:20 - Animals animals animals and being intrigued by fear

09:37 - Family background, being introduced to the internet, questioning traditional beliefs

13:17 - Stigmas around sex and sexuality, parsing through frameworks of deviancy

15:52 - Reading provocative books, fascination through frustration and not being naive, needing obsessions

22:56 - ‘Worst moment of life’, social incompetence

28:08 - Difficulty adapting, doing it ‘my way’ and making it work, “the way I do teamwork is by not working with people”

31:54 - Trying to figure out place in the world, ‘becoming sanitized’, stripping out people’s assumptions

35:35 - Power dynamics, finding compatibility

42:09 - Conceptualizing an ideal world, determinism, looking for something real

45:47 - Social relationships allow ‘getting to the heart’, loneliness and regret

50:23 - Being more competent at relationships, fear of feelings influencing self-image

58:51 - Realizing when type 5 isn’t actually talking about themselves, speaking about people in an abstraction

1:05:40 - Differing energies with self and others, divine resonating frequencies, obsessions

1:09:04 - Coming out story, viewing family as a collection of people forced to live together, “this is who I am, deal with it”

1:17:22 - Transformation of current social dynamics, ‘shutting up’, finding the people who ‘tolerate me’

1:23:22 - Differences between being on the autism spectrum and being a type 5

1:30:57 - Outro


CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Julie (SP/SO 1w2 126) says being an Enneagram One is like trying to control the lightning bolt you’re riding. We talk about how her pursuit of competence — in painting, music, and even dog training — brought early success but gradually drained the joy from each pursuit. She shares what it’s like to live in a body wired for precision and pressure, and how that rigidity eventually led to serious health issues after she threw herself into an activist cause. We explore how she navigates moral complexity not through rules, but through a somatic “yes,” and how her 2-fix allows her to “see people’s souls.” Throughout the conversation, she highlights something rarely said about Ones: their sharp, absurd sense of humor that helps her stay connected to lightness and levity.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:04 - Julie’s journey as an artist

17:51 - Creativity and excellence as a Type 1

22:43 - 1’s rigidity in music

28:52 - Being a frustration type in the body center

31:44 - 1w2 “rightness of action”

34:18 - Type 2/2fix “tracking emotional data points”

44:08 - Casting judgment or seeing soul?

49:27 - Julie’s relationship to criticality

57:26 - Advocacy at the expense of personal health

1:00:47 - “Primordial Perfection”

1:04:43 - Detecting anxiety as a body type

1:08:23 - The humor and absurdism of 1

1:17:25 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Kim (SO/SP 8w7 863) joins us for an intimate and unguarded exploration of the inner world of Eight — where sovereignty is survival, connection is a gamble, and straight talk is an act of love. From the first moments, Kim’s presence is unmistakable: a force of nature, all-in from the outset, inviting others to meet her at full throttle. We explore the emotional paradox at the heart of the Social Eight — the innocent hope that others will meet her with the same raw honesty she offers, the crushing self-blame that follows when that trust proves misplaced, and the instinct to amputate not just relationships but parts of her own soul in self-protection. We delve into the Eight’s preemptive numbing, the hardened stance of being the gatekeeper of her world, and the quiet grief of being valued only for what she gives — not for who she is. Kim’s story is a vivid portrait of Eight’s vulnerability beneath the armor, and of the slow, courageous return to wholeness.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@UCPiABQQQE4Ret7cwmy-GmRA

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:08 - BOOM; here it is, 8w7 energy

6:41 - “I’m not a law of nature, I’m a force of it"

14:31 - Rejection core; cutting parts off, self-hatred

20:16 - Living as a social hexad type in a world of attachment types

26:41 - 8 and naiveté

34:35 - Social controlling, “I’m the queen of the chess board”

45:40 - Black and white mindset, 8s relationship to anger

54:07 - “You care about what I am, not who I am”, rejection and usefulness

1:02:08 - Anger vs. indifference and their role in care

1:06:52 - Understanding delusional or realistic boundaries

1:13:16 - Apologetic 8, integrity

1:22:00 - Forgiveness and innocence

1:26:11 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Alice (SO/SP 9w1 973) joins us for a profound and poetic exploration of the inner world of Nine — where the background environment can overshadow the self, and the longing isn’t for pleasure, but for the peace of never having been born. We dive into the quiet ache for pre-conscious coziness, the hesitance to disturb reality with one’s presence, and the existential ambivalence at the heart of Nine structure: Do I really want to exist? Alice reflects on the invisible toll of absorbing the world’s energies, the disorienting effects of nightlife work, and the shattering aftermath of real connection gone silent. Her story is a journey of individuation and the slow integration of disparate parts of herself — from coming out as trans, to seeing herself mirrored in others’ self-suppression, and ultimately, to saying yes to life.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

02:24 - Alice’s current life context

08:17 - Being an extremely sensitive person, social 9 absorbing the environment

17:25 - “Swirling in your own cauldron” of the 9-7 stem

28:17 - “Ruining” the tapestry, 9w1 ethics

35:03 - 9s return to the womb; the desire to be unborn

44:03 - Saying ‘yes’ to experience

46:36 - Childhood

53:27 - Living as a trans woman

1:05:28 - Submitting my whole self to gaze - social instinct, type 3, type 9

1:11:11 - Seeing myself in another’s self-suppression

1:33:53 - Opting out of autopilot and serving a new vision for life

1:49:31 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
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Sarah’s Type 6 mind moves fast—so fast it can create instant connection and obscure deeper intimacy. In this episode, she unpacks the whirlwind: the pull between independence and support, the trap of victimhood, and how unchecked reactivity nearly derailed a past relationship. With raw honesty, she explores self-sabotage, emotional spirals, and the slow work of learning self-trust. This is a conversation about growing beyond fear into real, grounded connection.

LINKS

Sarah's Music https://open.spotify.com/artist/6VAheMN9FSGheExTVAlBXD?si=rbz8XlbPQqaQx3mEr9De0A

The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Reviewing the “bullet points”

07:39 - Therapy, working on self-needs rather than attachment structure reflecting needs of others

10:07 - What’s hard about ‘touching ground’

25:11 - Victim mentality, self-sabotage, and type 6 ‘underdog’

32:43 - Reactive attachment

39:41 - Seeking a dimension of parental qualities in partners

47:20 - 6 dividing from one extreme pole to the other, finding balance in the center

52:28 - 6s entitlement of collective ‘markers’

1:02:42 - The horror of “it’s all 6, it always has been”

1:17:50 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Kalla Mort shares her jaw-dropping story of escaping the high control religion of her youth (read: cult) and coming out as queer. This is an incredibly rich exploration of Attachment in the Mental Center, and how Type 6 navigates revolutions of core beliefs. Enjoy.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:17 - Growing up in high control religion, 6 attachment in head center

8:30 - Young 6 strategizing, ‘selling out’ in religion, theater life

10:21 - Sexuality in a purity culture

13:23 - IBLP, Gotthard, being a mouthpiece for collective ideals

24:56 - Awakening to identity

33:15 - Christian ‘beacon of love’ vs. personal visceral truth

46:03 - Dissociation of the attachment types

50:41 - Mental health, conversion therapy

55:10 - 6 ‘copy-paste’ discernment

1:04:21 - Psychosomatic symptoms of body/mind incongruence

1:13:49 - The mental center as a prison for the heart

1:31:45 - Deconstruction

1:38:13 - Weaponizing faith

1:51:02 - Getting ‘too big’ for old constructs

1:55:12 - Esoteric healing methods

2:02:25 - 6’s mistrust of the mental center

2:18:38 - “My biggest savior is my biggest sin - subjectivity”

2:25:56 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614), trauma-informed massage therapist, joins us from Wyoming. We dive into the existential crisis sparked when her partner didn't finish his weekly banana quota—forcing her into making muffins against her will. Plus, we unpack how Sara, as SP/SX armed with all three frustration types (1, 4, 7), meticulously crafts her ideal cozy cocoon, yet accidentally projects being more socially "available" than she ever truly feels. Enjoy.

LINKS

Sara’s Website (Massage Therapy, Astrology, Blog)
https://www.sarapryde.com/

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Nervous interview ‘bubbling’, 6-1 stem not managing the stress

09:28 - Social blind “I don’t like being a person”, being perceived, “I have to be mythic”

17:22 - Massage therapy, curating perfect environment

22:38 - Conflicts in Type Structure, 6 can’t cut off from service and security

29:24 - Comfort is not health, coming up for air as sp/sx

33:41 - “Security” as Self-preservation 6

34:55 - “Muffin Madness”: social blind frustration

49:32 - Not holding a socially collective reasoning

57:24 - Accidental availability as a 6, despite social blind

1:01:19 - Childhood

1:14:18 - Self-Reliance as Type 6, Anchoring to meaning-making maps

1:19:41 - 6s inner zig-zag, different ‘parts’ conflicting thoughts/statements

1:30:48 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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In this candid Enneagram interview, Kate (SO/SX 7w8 793) discusses her identity as an "entitled brat," her allergy to drudgery and limitation, and her dream (since she was young) of being a "kept woman." She also shares how therapy helped her distinguish between "fun negative" (entertainment) and "real negative" (trauma), allowing her to process difficult emotions rather than "bouncing" away from them. Enjoy.

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Browse More Interviews by Type
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Timestamps

00:00 - Intro

03:59 - Outlook on what Kate does in life, not tracking self-preservation linearly

07:03 - Frustration of 7, not ‘hippy dippy’

13:22 - “I live in the land of Kate”, Type 7 relationship to freedom, theater of negativity masks "real" negativity

20:34 - No super-ego; fighting reality

22:13 - Friendship as a social 7, having fun and dealing with shit, reciprocity

28:01 - Being a ‘brat’, wanting to be a ‘kept woman’, freedom from ‘have-to’s’

33:29 - SP blind 7: no shame in others caring for them

37:31 - Being assertive, getting ‘in trouble’ as a framework

42:10 - Being loved more than loving

45:23 - Harry Potter addiction, proxy for SP grounding

48:31 - Therapy, letting in past hurts, not bouncing out of pain

55:21 - Seeing memories in new light, somatic connections

1:09:40 - Outro

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CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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