Moses Williams is an 18-year-old Social/Self-Pres 5w6 who is also on the autism spectrum. Moses describes growing up feeling that adults were hiding the truth, that essential information was missing, and that everyone else somehow knew how to be human in a way he didn’t. We talk about his often obsessive fascination with taboo topics—pornography, sexual deviance, violence—not to provoke, but to answer the horrifying question: “Am I stupid for not knowing this already?” He recounts a personal collapse that left him with three options: become a sanitized version of himself, disappear entirely, or dismantle and reform collective assumptions entirely. This conversation also explores intellectual separatism, the pressure to adapt to norms that feel senseless, and the slow, reluctant emergence of a heart that wants something real. This episode contains references to pornography, sexual deviance, and suicide. Listener discretion advised.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@houseofenneagram⁩


TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

02:56 - Introduction to enneagram, being a loner, interested in psychology to understand people

06:20 - Animals animals animals and being intrigued by fear

09:37 - Family background, being introduced to the internet, questioning traditional beliefs

13:17 - Stigmas around sex and sexuality, parsing through frameworks of deviancy

15:52 - Reading provocative books, fascination through frustration and not being naive, needing obsessions

22:56 - ‘Worst moment of life’, social incompetence

28:08 - Difficulty adapting, doing it ‘my way’ and making it work, “the way I do teamwork is by not working with people”

31:54 - Trying to figure out place in the world, ‘becoming sanitized’, stripping out people’s assumptions

35:35 - Power dynamics, finding compatibility

42:09 - Conceptualizing an ideal world, determinism, looking for something real

45:47 - Social relationships allow ‘getting to the heart’, loneliness and regret

50:23 - Being more competent at relationships, fear of feelings influencing self-image

58:51 - Realizing when type 5 isn’t actually talking about themselves, speaking about people in an abstraction

1:05:40 - Differing energies with self and others, divine resonating frequencies, obsessions

1:09:04 - Coming out story, viewing family as a collection of people forced to live together, “this is who I am, deal with it”

1:17:22 - Transformation of current social dynamics, ‘shutting up’, finding the people who ‘tolerate me’

1:23:22 - Differences between being on the autism spectrum and being a type 5

1:30:57 - Outro


CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Julie (SP/SO 1w2 126) says being an Enneagram One is like trying to control the lightning bolt you’re riding. We talk about how her pursuit of competence — in painting, music, and even dog training — brought early success but gradually drained the joy from each pursuit. She shares what it’s like to live in a body wired for precision and pressure, and how that rigidity eventually led to serious health issues after she threw herself into an activist cause. We explore how she navigates moral complexity not through rules, but through a somatic “yes,” and how her 2-fix allows her to “see people’s souls.” Throughout the conversation, she highlights something rarely said about Ones: their sharp, absurd sense of humor that helps her stay connected to lightness and levity.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:04 - Julie’s journey as an artist

17:51 - Creativity and excellence as a Type 1

22:43 - 1’s rigidity in music

28:52 - Being a frustration type in the body center

31:44 - 1w2 “rightness of action”

34:18 - Type 2/2fix “tracking emotional data points”

44:08 - Casting judgment or seeing soul?

49:27 - Julie’s relationship to criticality

57:26 - Advocacy at the expense of personal health

1:00:47 - “Primordial Perfection”

1:04:43 - Detecting anxiety as a body type

1:08:23 - The humor and absurdism of 1

1:17:25 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Kim (SO/SP 8w7 863) joins us for an intimate and unguarded exploration of the inner world of Eight — where sovereignty is survival, connection is a gamble, and straight talk is an act of love. From the first moments, Kim’s presence is unmistakable: a force of nature, all-in from the outset, inviting others to meet her at full throttle. We explore the emotional paradox at the heart of the Social Eight — the innocent hope that others will meet her with the same raw honesty she offers, the crushing self-blame that follows when that trust proves misplaced, and the instinct to amputate not just relationships but parts of her own soul in self-protection. We delve into the Eight’s preemptive numbing, the hardened stance of being the gatekeeper of her world, and the quiet grief of being valued only for what she gives — not for who she is. Kim’s story is a vivid portrait of Eight’s vulnerability beneath the armor, and of the slow, courageous return to wholeness.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@UCPiABQQQE4Ret7cwmy-GmRA

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:08 - BOOM; here it is, 8w7 energy

6:41 - “I’m not a law of nature, I’m a force of it"

14:31 - Rejection core; cutting parts off, self-hatred

20:16 - Living as a social hexad type in a world of attachment types

26:41 - 8 and naiveté

34:35 - Social controlling, “I’m the queen of the chess board”

45:40 - Black and white mindset, 8s relationship to anger

54:07 - “You care about what I am, not who I am”, rejection and usefulness

1:02:08 - Anger vs. indifference and their role in care

1:06:52 - Understanding delusional or realistic boundaries

1:13:16 - Apologetic 8, integrity

1:22:00 - Forgiveness and innocence

1:26:11 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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