Julie (SP/SO 1w2 126) says being an Enneagram One is like trying to control the lightning bolt you’re riding. We talk about how her pursuit of competence — in painting, music, and even dog training — brought early success but gradually drained the joy from each pursuit. She shares what it’s like to live in a body wired for precision and pressure, and how that rigidity eventually led to serious health issues after she threw herself into an activist cause. We explore how she navigates moral complexity not through rules, but through a somatic “yes,” and how her 2-fix allows her to “see people’s souls.” Throughout the conversation, she highlights something rarely said about Ones: their sharp, absurd sense of humor that helps her stay connected to lightness and levity.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:04 - Julie’s journey as an artist

17:51 - Creativity and excellence as a Type 1

22:43 - 1’s rigidity in music

28:52 - Being a frustration type in the body center

31:44 - 1w2 “rightness of action”

34:18 - Type 2/2fix “tracking emotional data points”

44:08 - Casting judgment or seeing soul?

49:27 - Julie’s relationship to criticality

57:26 - Advocacy at the expense of personal health

1:00:47 - “Primordial Perfection”

1:04:43 - Detecting anxiety as a body type

1:08:23 - The humor and absurdism of 1

1:17:25 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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