Dr. Cate Shanahan, MD, has been studying vegetable oils since 2002. We talked about her background in biochemistry and what plastics have to do with seed oils, Henry Ford’s role in the history of seed oils, fatty acid chemistry and oxidation, how to avoid parkinsons and improve your mental health, her thoughts on sugar, fruit, and juice, the Hateful Eight, what Dr. Cate eats in a day, her new book Dark Calories, and more.

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Nuggets:

(00:00:00) – Intro

(00:03:56) – Dr. Cate’s education background

(00:07:52) – Polymerization & seed oils

(00:12:46) – Athletic background & health issues

(00:15:04) – What a healthy diet really is

(00:16:28) – Why do people defend seed oils?

(00:27:19) – The smoking analogy

(00:30:46) – A brief history of seed oils

(00:42:40) – Edward Bernays

(00:43:14) – Fatty acid chemistry & oxygen

(00:49:30) – Oxidation & oxidative stress

(00:56:55) – Rust, autophagy, & chronic disease

(01:00:32) – Changing your diet to prevent Parkinson's

(01:02:11) – Sugar & refined flour

(01:05:51) – Mental health

(01:10:41) – Sugar continued

(01:14:38) – Fruit, juice, & old food

(01:20:56) – The Hateful Eight

(01:24:22) – Clean Bite app

(01:25:54) – Palm, olive, avocado, & coconut oil

(01:27:34) – Adulterated food

(01:31:00) – What Dr. Cate eats in a day

(01:34:14) – Ancestral eating & Deep Nutrition

(01:35:00) – Her next course

(01:35:28) – Where to find Dr. Cate

Justin Nault is a nutritional therapist who has helped thousands of clients escape our broken healthcare system and reclaim their health. We talked about his previous life as a professional musician and his own health journey, as well as the origins of allopathic medicine, seed oils and the hydroelectric dam analogy, what’s wrong with rodent studies and nutrition research, how to eat for optimal energy, leanness and performance, longevity in sports, setting 90 years of goals, the politicization of health, finding self-love, and much more. You can learn more about Justin at justinnault.com/steven

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Nuggets:

(00:00:00) – Intro

(00:01:38) – Justin’s life as a professional musician

(00:05:44) – The costume

(00:11:08) – Escapism

(00:15:32) – Rocketman

(00:17:52) – Collecting data from childhood

(00:22:20) – Masochistic fitness

(00:26:05) – Justin’s niece

(00:31:26) – The origins of alopathic medicine

(00:32:57) – The limitations of nutrition science

(00:34:54) – Seed oils

(00:39:18) – The hydroelectric dam analogy

(00:44:12) – PUFAs, Omega-6s, & Omega-3s

(00:46:05) – Hyperphysiological doses, & fat loss

(00:52:10) – A cheap way to check your metabolic rate

(00:53:50) – What happened to Primal Kitchen

(00:58:57) – Capitalism is demand-driven

(01:03:01) – Whose funnel am I in?

(01:06:17) – Justin’s staple foods

(01:08:32) – Cholesterol & thyroid health

(01:16:54) – Carbs & saturated fat

(01:21:53) – Calories, paleo, & metabolic rate

(01:27:34) – Food is data

(01:30:50) – Energy flux

(01:35:39) – No more sugar cravings

(01:38:50) – Architect of freedom

(01:43:18) – Thyroid, carb sources, & dairy

(01:46:44) – Fiber & blood glucose

(01:47:49) – Sugar

(01:54:40) – Fructose & fruit juice

(01:56:57) – Rodent studies & nutrition research

(02:02:14) – The illusion of authority

(02:07:40) – The politicization of health

(02:11:29) – Covid

(02:19:29) – A journey of self-love

(02:31:18) – Psychadelics & non-duality

(02:35:20) – Is it working

(02:42:41) – Top 5 daily prometabolic habits

(02:46:23) – Equatorial living

(02:49:07) – Leanness & performance

(02:58:28) – Longevity in sports

(03:00:50) – Justin’s athletic life

(03:03:06) – 90 years of goals

(03:05:39) – Where to find Justin

How important is fluoride for preventing cavities? And is it safe for us and our kids? Dr. Frank Zelko joins the show to tackle these questions. Dr. Zelko is a professor at the University of Hawaii and has a PhD in environmental history. He is currently working on a book about the history of water fluoridation and the latest research regarding its efficacy and health effects. Expect to go on a fascinating historical journey, and learn about the latest science so you can make your own decision about your drinking water. You can learn more about Dr. Zelko at manoa.hawaii.edu

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Nuggets:

(00:00:00) – Intro

(00:01:33) – Environmental History

(00:04:21) – Becoming interested in water fluoridation

(00:08:25) – My introduction to Frank

(00:11:17) – Colorado Brown Stain

(00:18:26) – Alcoa & indentifying fluoride

(00:21:41) – Naturally occurring fluoride

(00:25:41) – Cavities in the 1930s

(00:28:06) – The sweet spot

(00:30:54) – Fluoride waste & preliminary research

(00:35:28) – Fluoride toxicosis symptoms

(00:44:11) – Dentistry & carries

(00:52:55) – Early health studies

(00:56:14) – Adding fluoride to the water

(01:00:31) – The Florida phosphate industry

(01:06:30) – The push for fluoridation

(01:17:19) – Scientific pushback & conspiracy theories

(01:25:52) – Suppression of anti-fluoride research

(01:28:32) – Parallels & pendulums

(01:31:01) – More recent studies on fluoride

(01:35:37) – The efficacy of fluoridation on cavities

(01:41:43) – The fluoridation for low-income argument

(01:42:40) – Where we’re at now

(01:44:41) – Should we be filtering our water?

(01:50:55) – Toothpaste

(01:55:08) – Tea & other recommendations

(01:58:42) – Politics & fluoride debates

(02:06:27) – Vaccines & serious diseases

(02:10:55) – PFAs, microplastics, & fire retardants

(02:13:59) – Where to find Dr. Zelko