In the Season 2 finale of When We’re Not Hustling, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster come together for an Afterparty episode to reflect on Olivia Snow’s interview. They discuss her insights on surveillance and sex work, the challenges of balancing personal and professional identities, and the complexities of the industry. The conversation also explores the idea of sex work as a queer identity and the need for solidarity across the community. Wrapping up the season, the hosts share reflections, gratitude, and holiday wishes for their listeners.

In This Episode:

00:05: Introduction to the After-Party Episode

00:30: Season 2 Finale and Co-Host Introductions

01:09: Reflections on Season 2 and Hosting Emotions

02:32: Discussion on Olivia Snow and Academia

06:23: Humor and Academia's Impact

07:47: Understanding Risks in the Sex Work Industry

14:19: Intelligence and Skills in Sex Work

21:02: Lateral Whorephobia and Community Solidarity

34:14: Sex Work as a Queer Identity Discussion

44:37: Closing Remarks and Holiday Wishes

People:

Guest: Olivia Snow

Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Emery Fields

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

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In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Olivia Snow, a writer, professor, and dominatrix, to discuss the intersections of academia, labor rights, and the surveillance of sex workers. Olivia shares insights from her research on algorithmic surveillance and how technology, particularly smartphones, profiles sex workers. The conversation delves into themes of class, labor, and societal perceptions of sex work, weaving in elements from Olivia’s dissertation on cannibalism and capitalism in 19th-century American literature. Together, Jessie and Olivia reflect on their experiences and the broader implications of their work, offering a nuanced look at the complexities of the industry.

In This Episode:

00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling

01:23: Podcast Overview with Host Jessie Sage

02:44: Season Finale and Guest Introduction: Olivia Snow

05:01: Olivia Snow on Academia and Sex Work Research

06:53: Surveillance and Sex Work: A Discussion

10:22: Historical Context of Surveillance in Sex Work

12:30: Olivia Snow's Academic Background

20:18: Cannibalism and Capitalism in American Literature

28:02: Class Dynamics and Sex Work

50:18: Sex Work, Queer Identity, and Community Dynamics

Guest:

Dr. Olivia Snow is a writer, professor, and dominatrix based in New York City. She’s currently a Visiting Assistant Researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles’s Department of Gender Studies and Center for Critical Internet Inquiry (C2i2), where she studies sex work, labor rights, tech, and policy. She’s written for WIRED, The Daily Beast, Jezebel, The Chronicle of Higher Education, The Nation, Slate, and Motherboard/VICE, and she’s been quoted in stories on sex work and whorephobia for Business Insider, Buzzfeed, CNN, The Daily Dot, Fast Company, Forbes, Glamour, The Guardian, Inside Higher Ed, Mashable, MEL Magazine, The New York Post, Paper Magazine, Polygon, Prism, TechCrunch, The Washington Post, and more.

You can find Olivia:

Website: doctrixsnow.com

X: @MistressSnowPhD

Instagram: @mistresssnowphd

Recommendations:

Pretty Baby, by Chris Belcher

Chappell Roan

The Rest:

Host: Jessie Sage

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

Sponsor: Assembly Four

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In this episode of *When We're Not Hustling After Party*, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster discuss the appeal of van life and the challenges of minimal living. Emery shares his dream of a U.S. road trip and a simplified lifestyle, while Jessie reflects on her own experiences with van living, including the difficulties of maintaining cleanliness in small spaces. They explore the emotional significance of housing security, the comforts of home ownership, and the dynamics of solo versus group travel. The conversation shifts to psychedelics, examining their potential for self-discovery, ego reduction, and heightened self-awareness. The hosts differentiate between using substances for escapism versus exploration and consider the societal and legal controls on psychedelics. The episode concludes with reflections on the value of personal rituals, self-reflection, and the role of intention in fostering growth.

In This Episode:

00:02: Welcome to the Afterparty

00:16: Guest Introductions

00:33: Living in a Van

01:25: Road Trip Dreams

02:35: Minimalist Living Challenges

05:09: Housing Security and Personal Space

07:02: Travel Companions and Solo Journeys

14:25: The Joy of Unplanned Adventures

17:08: Perspectives on Psychedelics and Self-Discovery

38:04: Legal System and Body Autonomy

45:34: Closing Thoughts and Farewell

People:

Guest: Sinn Sage

Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Emery Fields

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

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In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage welcomes Sinn Sage, a longtime content creator and AVN Hall of Famer. Sinn shares her unique journey in the sex industry, from her early days as a stripper to producing indie porn and collaborating with her husband. The conversation explores her adventurous lifestyle, including living in a van, and her experiences with psychedelic medicine as a tool for personal growth and consciousness expansion. The episode highlights Sinn's multifaceted life and challenges societal stigmas around sex work, encouraging open and honest discussions.

In This Episode:

00:01: Introduction and Mission of When We're Not Hustling

01:23: Meet the Host: Jessie Sage

02:45: Introducing Guest: Sinn Sage

03:43: Sinn Sage's Journey in the Sex Industry

07:53: Life on the Road: Van Living Adventures

17:37: Exploring Psychedelic Medicine

27:25: MDMA and its Transformative Power

37:07: Scientific Research and Benefits of Psychedelics

47:02: The Impact of Psychedelics on Consciousness

57:32: Reflections on Sex Work and Societal Stigma

Guest:

Sinn Sage is a longtime content creator, making high-quality custom videos and authentic porn with her friends and partner. She's also in the AVN Hall of Fame and has won two other AVN awards. She is also the host of the Sage Advice Podcast.

You can find Sinn:

Website: sinn-sage.com

X: @sinnsage

Recommendations:

How to Change Your Mind, by Michael Pollan

You're Wrong About, by Sarah Marshall

Savage Lovecast by Dan Savage

Good Girls Talk About Sex, by Leah Carey

The Rest:

Host: Jessie Sage

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

Sponsor: Assembly Four

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In this When We're Not Hustling After Party episode, hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Emery Fields discuss Josie Oakley's episode, highlighting her dedication to organizing safe, inclusive sex-positive events and her activism with SWOP Pittsburgh. They explore how Josie’s work extends beyond event planning, advocating for reduced penalties for prostitution to make sex work safer and more accessible. The hosts examine the social dynamics and thoughtful guest curation that go into Josie's events, balancing newcomers with regulars, while discussing the importance of consent, self-awareness, and accountability. Reflecting on Josie’s honesty about her personal growth around past consent issues, they emphasize the need for open communication and self-reflection in fostering respectful relationships.

In This Episode:

00:05: Introduction to the Episode

00:24: Meet the Hosts and Guest

00:59: Hosting Sex Parties with Josie Oakley

01:35: Similarities to Bartending and Event Hosting

03:15: Social Dynamics of Sex Parties

05:18: Gender Dynamics and Initiating Interaction

08:53: Importance of Emotional Safety

11:14: Trust and Curating Guest Lists

15:28: Navigating Consent and Boundaries

26:26: Validating Feelings and Effective Communication

People:

Guest: Josie Oakley

Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Emery Fields

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

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When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Josie Oakley, a Pittsburgh-based escort and advocate. Josie discusses her personal journey and her efforts to create safer, more inclusive spaces for sex workers, including organizing "No Boys Allowed" sex parties. These events prioritize safety, consent, and community, providing a much-needed refuge from the presence of cis men. Josie also highlights her advocacy with SWOP Pittsburgh, where she is working to change local laws to reduce sex work penalties to civil violations. Additionally, Josie talks about her involvement in creative projects like the "Only Bans" game. Tune in to learn more about Josie's advocacy work and the importance of supporting sex workers’ rights and representation.

In This Episode:

00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling

00:43: Welcome from Host Jessie Sage

01:23: Overview of Podcast's Purpose

02:46: Introduction of Guest Josie Oakley

04:12: Josie Oakley Introduces Herself

05:24: The Concept of No Boys Allowed Parties

08:42: Establishing Party Norms and Safety

14:32: Josie's Experience with Hosting Parties

29:00: Josie Discusses Local Pittsburgh Organizing

49:35: Final Thoughts and How to Connect

Guest:

Josie Oakley is a professional canoodler based in Pittsburgh. She's an advocate, an artist, and a general mischief-maker.

You can find :

X: @theJosieOakley

Instagram: @theJosieOakley

Recommendations:

Constraints by Stefan Triplett

The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo: A Novel by Taylor Jenkins Reid

Thriving In Sex Work by Lola Divina

The Rest:

Host: Jessie Sage

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

Sponsor: Assembly Four

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When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.