In the Season 2 finale of When We’re Not Hustling, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster come together for an Afterparty episode to reflect on Olivia Snow’s interview. They discuss her insights on surveillance and sex work, the challenges of balancing personal and professional identities, and the complexities of the industry. The conversation also explores the idea of sex work as a queer identity and the need for solidarity across the community. Wrapping up the season, the hosts share reflections, gratitude, and holiday wishes for their listeners.

In This Episode:

00:05: Introduction to the After-Party Episode

00:30: Season 2 Finale and Co-Host Introductions

01:09: Reflections on Season 2 and Hosting Emotions

02:32: Discussion on Olivia Snow and Academia

06:23: Humor and Academia's Impact

07:47: Understanding Risks in the Sex Work Industry

14:19: Intelligence and Skills in Sex Work

21:02: Lateral Whorephobia and Community Solidarity

34:14: Sex Work as a Queer Identity Discussion

44:37: Closing Remarks and Holiday Wishes

People:

Guest: Olivia Snow

Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Emery Fields

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

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In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Olivia Snow, a writer, professor, and dominatrix, to discuss the intersections of academia, labor rights, and the surveillance of sex workers. Olivia shares insights from her research on algorithmic surveillance and how technology, particularly smartphones, profiles sex workers. The conversation delves into themes of class, labor, and societal perceptions of sex work, weaving in elements from Olivia’s dissertation on cannibalism and capitalism in 19th-century American literature. Together, Jessie and Olivia reflect on their experiences and the broader implications of their work, offering a nuanced look at the complexities of the industry.

In This Episode:

00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling

01:23: Podcast Overview with Host Jessie Sage

02:44: Season Finale and Guest Introduction: Olivia Snow

05:01: Olivia Snow on Academia and Sex Work Research

06:53: Surveillance and Sex Work: A Discussion

10:22: Historical Context of Surveillance in Sex Work

12:30: Olivia Snow's Academic Background

20:18: Cannibalism and Capitalism in American Literature

28:02: Class Dynamics and Sex Work

50:18: Sex Work, Queer Identity, and Community Dynamics

Guest:

Dr. Olivia Snow is a writer, professor, and dominatrix based in New York City. She’s currently a Visiting Assistant Researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles’s Department of Gender Studies and Center for Critical Internet Inquiry (C2i2), where she studies sex work, labor rights, tech, and policy. She’s written for WIRED, The Daily Beast, Jezebel, The Chronicle of Higher Education, The Nation, Slate, and Motherboard/VICE, and she’s been quoted in stories on sex work and whorephobia for Business Insider, Buzzfeed, CNN, The Daily Dot, Fast Company, Forbes, Glamour, The Guardian, Inside Higher Ed, Mashable, MEL Magazine, The New York Post, Paper Magazine, Polygon, Prism, TechCrunch, The Washington Post, and more.

You can find Olivia:

Website: doctrixsnow.com

X: @MistressSnowPhD

Instagram: @mistresssnowphd

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Chappell Roan

The Rest:

Host: Jessie Sage

Producer: Emily Foster

Music: Benjamin J Benamati

Sponsor: Assembly Four

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When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.