Former screen writer, author and professional therapist, Phil Stark joins Cristina and Ilana to chat about his practice and how we can all WIN at couples therapy and life! Cristina will cry watching your child perform. Ilana just learned the term "doorknob confessions" and now can not stop giving them. We love pets, if you don't are you a sociopath? Asking for a free world leader.

Hit us up with your quirks! thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com!

Shoutouts: Alexis Roland, Diptyque

Endorsements: WALKING! Get out and get exercise, absorb that vitamin D, and listen to podcasts (we have recs), Delightful Olfactory Scents, How to Win at Couple's Therapy by guest Phil Stark.

Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez. Check out Phil's other book, "Dude Where's My Car-tharsis."

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We'd love to hear about your mental health journey, DM us or email at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com.

Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini.

Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Author Jane Borden started as a comedian but has gone full research journalist with her latest book, Cults Like Us! We love cults, cults love us, and we are here for it. Did you know the Pilgrims were basically a doomsday group!? Cristina will start a crying cult. Ilana has really edged up against several cults... also, she does have an incredible opportunity to talk to you about when you have a chance. Have you heard of Neurasthenia? It's too much self help and self seeking that can leave you feeling crappy! So trust that you're on the right path and take it all with a grain of salt. Meditation is not self exploration, so close your eyes and get busy not thinking! It's the best thing for you.

We got listener mail!!! All we can do is keep the convo going. Remember to discuss with your doctor or mental health professional. It's Mental Health Awareness Month - want to get your challenges off your chest? Hit us up at thatssomentalgmail.com.

Endorsements: Small moments of care, mutual aid, listening to music from your past, Mel Robbins Podcast and France... the country.

Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Jane Borden. Go check out Jane's book Cults Like Us! More from her at JaneBorden.com

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We'd love to hear about your mental health journey, DM us or email at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com.

Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini.

Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Comedian, actor and podcaster, Daniel Van Kirk is here talking about bailing hay, coping with injuries, and pandemic ADHD. Cristina pitches her very own Florida headline. And Ilana is holding on by a thread because she is dealing with the end of the life of her sweet kitty, who has since passed, RIP Sugar Ray Liota. We all need to move our bods, so get out there and walk, dance or join a gym!

Shoutouts: Somebody Somewhere, Go Tribe Fitness, David Lynch TM Foundation

Endorsements: Transendental meditation, Shared Experiences; The Movies, Comedy, Live Music is all out there for you,

Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Daniel Van Kirk. Check out Daniel's upcoming tour dates at danielvankirk.com. He'll be stopping in Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky, Oregon, and Ohio. Go check him out, he's hilarious! He's also got a weekly podcast, "The Midnight Air."it's lighthearted topics and meant for people to listen while falling asleep or driving overnight. Also Dumb People Town, where they celebrate dumb people doing dumb things.

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We'd love to hear about your mental health journey, DM or email at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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First two people to email us mental health questions win a crystal!!! Hit us up - thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com. Check out Cristina's next show at your local salon jk jk...but for real, she's going to be doing some live shows in June at the LA Fringe Festival! Ilana is dropping MG's and dropping to the ground in her workout class. Transcendental meditation is working wonders for Ilana, link below for scholarships application!

Shoutouts: Telepathy Tapes, TM Scholarships

Endorsements: Jujitsu - Highland Park Fight Club, Spellbound Sky

Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez

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Email us at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Actor Sonny Valicenti (Mindhunter, Super Pumped, Hit-Monkey) reveals some of his process for getting into those darker characters. He also shares a road trip come down from meds - weeee! Should Cristina start a thumbs up class? Should Ilana begin slap therapy? Sonny is here to remind you that life is happening right now, so pay attention! Cristina will cry, but only a little and Ilana will try the new insult, "jerk bunny" - but it won't stick.

Shoutouts: Just Shoot It Podcast

Endorsements: Queen of the Mountain, Touch Yourself, or go get touched! NOW massage, envisioning being elderly - on your deathbed and come back to the present moment. Cristina loves this practice!!!

Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and our you can check out our guest Sonny Valicenti. Check him out at www.SonnyValicenti.com

Sonny can be seen in the film Magazine Dreams currently in theaters and PVOD rentals on Apple TV.

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We'd love to hear about your mental health journey, DM or email at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Actress, Writer, Director, and Taylor Swift's (award winning) on screen daughter-in-law, Mary Elizabeth Ellis, has always had a rebellious spirit. She'll tell us all about it in her OG Mississippi accent. Did you know Cristina is a walking advertisement for English, despite it being her second language? And Ilana is the childhood ghost you always wanted. Mary Elizabeth is not into self diagnosing, but she is distracted by shiny objects - aren't we all. They learn crying is healthy, heart holes can be filled, and healthy rebellion may be the result of having two parents.

Who is down for a TSM bookclub?

Shoutouts: Kristan Sargeant, Heidi Rose Robbins, Elizabeth Laime, Nobody's listening, Don't hate Meditate

Endorsements: The Tools, Reading! Substack, Freddie Mercury Killing it! A Man on the Inside on Netflix!

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We'd love to hear about your mental health journey, DM or email at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you to our producer Elizabeth Baquet, sound engineer Kevin Luu, and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Comedian, Actor, Director and Trandyman, Ian Harvie, brings us some deep, hilarious, conversation! These perimenopausal hosts are FEELING it. Ian breaks down his experience with menopause as a trans man. This once happy-go-lucky guy felt like he got hit by a truck when the hormone shifts came on. Chronic pain (and menopause) is no joke, though we will make some jokes about it. And hey, those ghost in your house, may as well make friends with them, Ian did. Thanks for reminding us to always take the help and say yes!

Shoutouts: Peach Whiskers Goods Vintage Store in Palm Springs, Masterclass, Frosting, Missi Pile and Brooke Dillman, Halle Berry, Signs by Laura Lynn Jackson,

Endorsements: Catching the Big Fish by David Lynch, The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins, The Telepathy Tapes Pod

Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and our guest Ian Harvie

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We'd love to hear about your mental health journey, DM or email at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com.

Thank you to our producer Elizabeth Baquet, sound engineer Kevin Luu, and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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