What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention?

In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence.

Together, we explore how insomnia can be understood through the lens of parts work, what happens when protector parts activate at night, and why asking “Who’s awake?” might be more helpful than trying to fall back asleep. Katie also offers grounded techniques and nervous system tools to support better sleep—not by overriding parts, but by listening to them.

Whether you struggle with occasional restlessness or chronic insomnia, this episode offers powerful insights into how we can meet our sleepless parts with kindness—and finally begin to rest.

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We Explore: 🌙 Katie’s personal experience with insomnia and burnout 🧠 The “Just Ask” principle in IFS: Who’s awake? What do you need? 🔦 Why certain protector parts become active at night 🌀 A theory on nightmares and sleep as a consent violation for some parts ⚖️ Common polarizations around sleep (e.g., “I need to sleep” vs. “I need to stay alert”) 🧘 Techniques for grounding before sleep and during the day 🧩 How to be with insomnia parts instead of battling them 🌿 The power of observing and noticing what’s there—without trying to change it

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About Katie LaCelle: Katie LaCelle is a somatic IFS and leadership coach who helps people reconnect with their body’s wisdom and uncover the internal leaders they already carry within. She specializes in working with high achievers, people pleasers, and caretakers—especially those navigating burnout or struggling with sleep. Katie regularly assists with IFS Institute trainings and is currently pursuing her Somatic Experiencing Practitioner certification. Her work blends deep nervous system support with compassionate parts work to create lasting, embodied change.

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Learn More & Connect with Katie: 🧘 IFS for Insomnia Course: cressanallc.com/about-insomnia-course 📸 Instagram: @cressanallc 🌐 Website: www.cressanallc.com

Tune in for a gentle, eye-opening conversation on what it really means to rest—and how befriending our sleepless parts might be the first step.

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What happens when a couple says “yes” to deep healing together—guided by MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and parts work?

In this soulful and honest conversation, I’m joined by Steph and Craig, co-hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, to explore their transformative journeys with MDMA-assisted therapy through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, we talk about what it’s like to prepare for these powerful sessions, working with the parts that hold fear or doubt, and what can unfold when you surrender to the healing process.

Steph and Craig open up about their unique experiences—both as individuals and as a couple. Craig describes a peaceful, heart-opening session, while Steph shares a more challenging journey that offered deep insight and emotional release. We also discuss the phenomenon of “redo” experiences—moments when the body and psyche reprocess past events in a new, healing way.

Whether you're curious about MDMA therapy, IFS, or simply how couples can grow together through conscious exploration, this episode offers powerful takeaways about trust, safety, and self-discovery.

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Topics We Discuss: - The preparation process for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy - Working with parts that feel fear, resistance, or uncertainty - Steph and Craig’s individual MDMA journeys—peaceful vs. intense - “Redo” experiences that can arise in altered states of healing - The role of integration and meaning-making after the session - How MDMA therapy deepened their connection as a couple - Why emotional safety is foundational for psychedelic healing - IFS as a guiding framework before, during, and after sessions

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About Steph & Craig: Steph and Craig are the hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, a podcast that explores healing, emotional growth, spirituality, and the beautiful messiness of being human. Through honest conversations, personal stories, and soulful insights, they help listeners feel seen, supported, and inspired on their own inner journeys.

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Connect with Steph & Craig: 🌐 Website: stephandcraig.co 📺 YouTube: @stephandcraig 📘 Facebook: Steph and Craig 📸 Instagram: @steph.and.craig 🎵 TikTok: @stephandcraig 📰 Substack: Steph & Craig on Substack

🎧 Tune in for an honest, intimate look at what happens when healing gets real—and you choose to walk the path together.

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In this deeply personal episode, I sit down with my brother, Sam Deering, to explore the layered journey of identity—how it forms, evolves, fractures, and heals over a lifetime.

Sam shares openly about his search for belonging through many identities. We dive into big questions like Who am I? and Where do I belong?, weaving in the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) to understand how parts of ourselves are shaped by survival, societal pressures, and the deep human need for connection.

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We explore:

• What identity really means, and why it matters

• How society pressures us to exile parts of who we are

• The desperate human need for belonging and connection

• Sam’s identity journey

• How anger became a tool for survival and expression as a man

• Lessons the military taught him about values, boundaries, and self-trust

• Using creativity and boundaries to channel identity healthily

• How Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy sheds light on identity fragmentation and healing

• The power of acceptance, kindness, and making space for mistakes

• Why diversifying your identity is essential for resilience and wholeness

Sam speaks with honesty, humor, and hard-won wisdom about how belonging isn't something we find "out there"—it's something we reclaim inside ourselves, one part at a time.

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About Sam Deering

Sam Deering is a potter living in the hills of southern New Hampshire, working with one of humanity’s oldest mediums: clay. After leaving the military and enrolling in a college pottery class on the GI Bill, Sam found a new path—one rooted in simplicity, creativity, and grounded living. He apprenticed under master potter Kevin Crowe at Tye River Pottery in Virginia, and today he creates beautiful, functional pieces that make everyday life feel a little calmer, a little richer, and a little more human.

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Connect with Sam & See His Work:

🌐 Spotted Horse Pottery on Etsy 📸 @spottedhorse_pottery on Instagram

Tune in now for a conversation that’s honest, soulful, and full of insight about belonging, becoming, and the courage it takes to live as your whole self.

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What happens when you’ve had two open-heart surgeries before the age of 40, and you’re still fighting the healthcare system—every single day?

In this powerful and deeply human conversation, I’m joined by Dr. Jacob Kendall, healthcare advocate and metagerontologist, to talk about what it means to advocate like hell—for yourself, your loved ones, and the millions of people navigating chronic illness and a broken healthcare system.

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We explore:

- Jacob’s personal experience of having multiple heart surgeries and becoming a caregiver - How his life led him to multi-dimensional healthcare advocacy - The harms and complexity of the U.S. healthcare and insurance system - The internal debate among mental health professionals about whether to accept insurance - The debate between private and socialized medicine - The importance of honest conversations with providers and why doctors don’t always have all the answers - Why Jacob believes self-advocacy, assertiveness, and agency are the most essential tools we have

Jacob speaks with radical clarity and lived experience about the intentional confusion of insurance, the need to normalize chronic disease, and how healing isn’t just medical—it’s emotional, systemic, and deeply personal.

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Dr. Jacob Kendall advocates like hell for people living with chronic illness, pain, and disability. Having undergone two open-heart surgeries and served as a caregiver for multiple family members, Jacob brings deep insight into the realities of the U.S. healthcare system.

A metagerontologist with a broad background in biology, social work, public health, and theology, he blends science and soul in his work. Jacob is also the founder of TheSmartPatient.com, where he supports patients in navigating complex health systems and reclaiming their power.

He currently lives on Mobile Bay in Alabama with his wife, son, and daughter.

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🌐 TheSmartPatient.com 💼 Jacob on LinkedIn

Tune in now for a conversation that’s honest, courageous, and full of clarity on what it means to show up for your health—and push back when the system fails you!

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What if your birth chart could help you find the parts of you longing to be witnessed? What if the stars weren’t about prediction—but about reflection?

In this rich and expansive conversation, I’m joined by Sarah Temel, licensed trauma therapist, IFS practitioner, and founder of No Bad Charts, to explore the deeply supportive intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and evolutionary astrology.

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We dive into: 🌙 How astrology-informed IFS uses the birth chart as a fluid map of your soul’s lesson plan 🌙 How to use chart placements to identify trailheads, parts, legacy burdens, and Self-energy 🌙 The meaning of the twelve Houses and how they reflect different areas of life and parts of the psyche 🌙 Why no chart is a bad chart, and how astrology can be a tool for self-reflection, compassion, and curiosity 🌙 Reflective questions that help integrate astrology and IFS in personal and clinical work

This episode is an invitation to meet your system with more clarity and compassion, using the ancient language of the stars with the grounded wisdom of IFS. Whether you’re astrology-curious or already fluent, Sarah’s insight will deepen your appreciation for both modalities!

Plus, Sarah uses my birth chart as examples during the conversation and no surprise, my mind was BLOWN away by what she shares. I'm so excited for you to listen in!

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Sarah is an IFS-trained, licensed trauma therapist passionate about the intersection of human spirituality and healing from adversity. She is the founder of No Bad Charts, where she teaches others to integrate IFS-inspired astrology into clinical and personal work. Sarah is also an EMDRIA-certified therapist, a consultant-in-training, and is pursuing credentialing in drama therapy.

Through her New Jersey-based private practice, Imagine Healing, and her spiritual consulting platform Window-Within.com, Sarah offers individual sessions, workshops, and semi-private groups for clinicians and seekers alike.

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🌐 NoBadCharts.com 🌐 ImagineHealingTrauma.com 📸 Instagram: @nobadcharts 🌿 Window-Within.com

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Longing and heartache—two deeply human experiences that touch us all. In this conversation with Susan Poznyansky, LICSW (they/them), founder of Heart of Caldera (HOC), we explore the tender terrain of what it means to long, ache, and hold space for the parts of us that carry these emotions.

Susan and I share a love for lakes—their stillness, their depth—and reflect on the parts of us that feel more cautious around the vastness of the ocean. From this imagery, we dive into the three major themes of longing and heartache:

🌿 Longing for connection – the deep yearning to be seen and held. 🌿 Longing for choices not made – the what-ifs, the parallel paths that remain unexplored. 🌿 Grief for what we have had but no longer hold – the ache of change, transition, and loss.

Throughout our conversation, we bring an Internal Family Systems (IFS) lens to longing and heartache, exploring: 🌀 The parts of us connected to longing—how they show up and what they need. 🌀 Polarizations within our system—how internal conflicts influence the way we experience longing and heartache. 🌀 Ways to be with longing rather than trying to fix, numb, or push it away.

This episode is an invitation to sit with your longing, honor your heartache, and listen to the wisdom within both. Whether you resonate with deep-seated yearning, nostalgia, or grief, you are not alone in these experiences.

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Susan Poznyansky is a licensed clinical social worker and the founder of Heart of Caldera (HOC), a social enterprise dedicated to holding space for individuals as they cultivate self-compassion and personal courage on their journey to living fully and authentically. Through HOC, Susan co-guides with people on their unique paths to wholeness in this precious life experience.

Identifying as non-binary, queer, neurodivergent (ADHD), and a person living with a chronic illness, Susan brings a deeply personal and compassionate approach to their work.

Originally from Brooklyn, NY, and the first generation of their family born in the U.S. to Ukrainian Jewish immigrants, Susan's love for nature was nurtured during summers spent in the Borscht Belt. Now residing on the breathtaking Olympic Peninsula, the ancestral land of the Skokomish people, Susan enjoys fishing, writing, swimming, hiking, mushroom foraging, watching Marvel movies, hammocking, and indulging in their favorite hobby: hurkle-durkling (a cozy state of lounging).

Susan is also a proud member of Jewish Voice for Peace and continues to create spaces for reflection, healing, and transformation.

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🌍 Website: ifswellness.com 📷 Instagram: @heart_of_caldera_ifs 📘 Facebook: Heart of Caldera IFS

💫 Explore Susan’s work, retreats, and offerings at Heart of Caldera—a space for deep healing, connection, and self-discovery.

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What if the key to clarity, aliveness, and deep relaxation was already within your body—waiting to be awakened? In this episode, I sit down with my long-time mentor and friend, Jessica Lichaa, a fascia and nervous system specialist, to explore the profound connection between fascia, stored energy, and nervous system regulation.

We dive into the body’s role in healing, the impact of tension and unresolved energy, and how awakening the fascia can discharge stored trauma and restore balance. Jessica explains the difference between top-down vs. bottom-up processing, the significance of ventral vs. dorsal relaxation, and how we can work with fascia to shift from dysregulation to deep nervous system healing.

To close the episode, Jessica guides us through a fascial awakening exercise designed to bring clarity, aliveness, and ventral relaxation, so you can experience this work firsthand.

Whether you’re curious about somatic healing, looking for practical tools to regulate your nervous system, or just want to understand why fascia holds the key to transformation, this episode is packed with insights and embodiment practices you won’t want to miss!

• What is the body, really?
• How tension impacts the body and nervous system
• Fascia and its role in nervous system regulation
• The importance of fascial discharging and fascial awakening
• Top-down vs. bottom-up processing in healing
• How to invite fascial awakening & discharge into your practice
• Dorsal relaxation vs. ventral relaxation (and why it matters)
• Guided fascial awakening exercises for clarity, aliveness, and deep relaxation

Jessica Lichaa is a fascia and nervous system specialist dedicated to helping people release stored traumas, energetic imprints, and hormonal residues trapped in the body’s tissues. Through her Fascia Awakening method, she bridges fascia intelligence, nervous system regulation, and consciousness to support deep healing and transformation.

With over 16 years of experience in yoga, energy healing, and somatic work, Jessica guides others in rewiring their body-mind connection for greater resilience, empowerment, and conscious awakening. Currently based in San Jose, CA, she will be relocating to Portland, Oregon, in April 2025.

🌎 Website: www.fasciaawakening.com 📷 Instagram: @fasciaawakening

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What if creativity could become one of your most powerful tools for self-discovery and healing? In this episode, I sit down with Lynn Motley, a licensed mental health therapist and Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner, to explore the powerful intersection of Soul Collage® and parts work. We dive into how Soul Collage® serves as a creative and intuitive practice to externalize and connect with different parts of ourselves, fostering self-discovery, healing, and integration.

Lynn shares the “hints” (not rules!) of Soul Collage®, how to use it to represent polarized parts, and how to dialogue with your cards for deeper insight. We also discuss how the suits of Soul Collage® parallel aspects of IFS, and how intuitive and directive card-making can support emotional and spiritual growth.

Whether you're new to Soul Collage® or a seasoned creator, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration that will leave you eager to pick up scissors, glue, and images to start your own healing journey.

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• What is Soul Collage® and how does it work?
• The “hints” (not rules!) for making Soul Collage cards
• Weaving Internal Family Systems (IFS) and parts work into Soul Collage
• Representing polarized parts in cards
• Dialoguing with your cards for deeper insight
• Externalizing parts through visual expression
• Intuitive vs. directive card-making approaches
• Understanding the suits of Soul Collage® and their parallels with IFS
• The power of using “I am one who…” as a reflection tool
• Creative ways to use your Soul Collage® deck for ongoing self-discovery

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Lynn Motley, LCSW, is a licensed mental health therapist, IFS practitioner, and Soul Collage facilitator dedicated to helping individuals and couples find wholeness and well-being through psychotherapy, movement, embodied learning, and creative arts. She integrates Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Soul Collage® in her work, creating a non-pathologizing approach to self-discovery and healing.

Lynn also teaches Radical Self-Care Yoga, facilitates monthly Soul Collage® gatherings, and leads workshops and retreats designed to foster personal transformation. She believes that life itself is a canvas for exploration, and that creativity and movement are powerful tools for deeper self-understanding.

She lives in Lexington, KY, with her husband and enjoys hiking, mixed media art, Soul Collage, yoga, and dancing.

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🌎 Website: www.lynnmotley.com 📧 Email: lynnmotleylcsw@gmail.com 📞 Phone: 859-948-5817

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