What happens when the life that once defined you — the job, the highest levels of success, the relationships — no longer fits?

In this deeply honest and heart-forward episode of Sink AND Swim, Julie sits down with Jesse Moore, former NCAA Division 1 champion swim coach turned soulful performance mentor, to explore the liminal space between identities, the grief that comes with real growth, and the sacredness of coaching done from the heart.

From walking away from the pool deck…
...to navigating heartbreak and reinvention…
...to starting over in China guided by intuition…

Jesse models what it looks like to sink into the deep end and swim with purpose.

Expect real talk about:
💔 How the heartbreak of losing a dear friend and coaching mentor became the doorway to transformation
🏊‍♂️ Why coaching is about being before doing and achieving ... and how he strives to model that for the swimmers he serves
🌏 What moving across the world taught him about humanity
❤️‍🩹 and how grief — especially the kind passed down through the love of his grandmother — shapes how we show up

This one’s for the high achievers learning to trust the inner nudges and sink in to the pause.

It's for the helpers who are ready to be witnessed, too.

And anyone who needs to hear: you’re not alone in the rebuild.

00:00 - Sinking Into Jesse’s Story
05:52 - When Love and Loss Crack You Open
13:28 - Rebuilding Without the Resume
22:34 - Coaching as Medicine, Not Just Metrics
32:09 - A Soul-led Move to China
42:18 - Nana, Grief, and What Really Matters
54:52 - Realigning With Purpose

Want to be supported by Jesse?

Discover more at www.coachjessemoore.com and make sure to follow him on instagram @coachjessemoore

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In this continuation from Part 1 of this series, I share the raw, nuanced journey of identity transition that so many women in healthcare face. Whether you're still in the clinic, halfway out, or building your own path from scratch, I hope this episode reminds you that your transition isn’t a detour—it’s the work.

This episode doesn't offer quick fixes—it offers permission to be in process, question everything & find your voice even when it shakes.

I unpack what it really takes to leave behind the white coat identity & embrace a more expansive, integrated version of yourself.

From the slow burn of transition to the internal friction of choosing a new path, this conversation is a balm for anyone navigating the messy middle.

I talk about the patterns I had to unlearn for more capacity and presence & how honoring every past version of yourself becomes a portal to greater wholeness.

I explore how my body signaled threat long before my mind caught up, and how tracking sensation & building capacity for discomfort support deeper transformation.

I also get real about the final 3 reasons I won't go back to healthcare - which I believe are keeping many women from showing up authentically in their work.

03:47 – The Journey of Identity Transition
Leaving the white coat isn’t a single decision—it’s a slow, layered unraveling. This chapter explores the discomfort of not knowing who you are without the title, and why that in-between is where the real work begins

10:06 – The Challenges of Choosing a Lane
For multi-passionate women, "niching down" can feel like soul-compression. I explore how trying to fit into one box often leads to hiding parts of yourself that hold real power

12:52 – Integrating Past Experiences into New Identities
You don’t have to discard the old you to become the new you. This chapter is about composting past skills, titles, and patterns so they can actually nourish your next evolution

18:54 – The Role of the Nervous System in Change
Here, I reflect on how building capacity for sensation—not just pushing through—was essential in my transition. It's not just about courage; it's about learning to feel safe in new territory

25:02 – The Hidden Truths of Leaving Healthcare
Leaving a profession you worked so hard for can feel like betrayal. I name the grief, anger, and reckoning that come with stepping away—and why we need more honesty about it

45:45 – Reasons 4-6 for Not Returning to Healthcare
I talk about why I’ve chosen not to go back, even when I could, and how honoring this gave me access to a more authentic version of leadership and service

01:06:31 – The Identity Shift: From Healthcare to Coach
It’s more than a business model shift—it’s an identity recalibration. I unpack what it meant to become responsible for my own safety, rhythm, and expression

If you haven't listened to Part 1 of this 2 part series -- make sure to check it out now!

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Ashley Sterken is the founder of Hive Ambition, a community that supports women in business to grow with clarity, confidence, and intention, most importantly, without burning out.

This is a topic that’s really near and dear to my heart, having mentored women in business, especially women in healthcare business, for nearly 10 years now. Ashley has a background in speech pathology, and her long, bumpy and curvy path has brought her to leading and mentoring other women entrepreneurs.

And one really cool thing we discussed that I think more women need to feel safe and have permission to say out loud is the true inherent isolation that comes with entrepreneurship and our drive and desire for friends; we talked about how it’s really okay to say, “I need more friends” or “The friends I currently have aren’t working for me anymore.”

We talk about her unexpected leap to full‑time entrepreneurship and leading Hive Ambition—she knew all along it was coming, but then was pushed unexpectedly by the universe before her picture‑perfect timeline fell into place—and about balancing the masculine and feminine energies in your business and why it’s not a 50‑50 split for most people.

We talked about why you can’t “spreadsheet your way through” everything and also why you can’t simply dream, manifest, and work on mindset stuff—you need both.

We also highlighted the importance of conveying vulnerability as a leader and mentor, the brave act of listening to your inner voice before you’re in crisis and have no choice but to listen, and Internal Family Systems, something that’s really benefited Ashley as a woman in business and informs my own work with my clients and, of course, with myself!

06:49 – From Speech Pathology to CEO: Ashley’s Journey
Ashley shares her winding path from clinical work to leadership and entrepreneurship—and how Hive Ambition was born

13:02 – The Power (and Pain) of Community

How connection heals the inherent isolation women feel in entrepreneurship, and the realities of navigating big transitions and unexpected pivots as a leader in community

21:52 – When Life Says “Pivot” … and you gotta go whether you’re ready or not

From building a nonprofit after Hurricane Helene to realignment and learning to put it on pause—how Ashley took a brave step back even when what she was building was a good thing

35:51 – Inner Guidance & The Loud Nudge

How and why to recognize your internal cues before a crisis hits, and the magic of checking in with yourself regularly

48:44 – Building with Soul: Strategy Meets Spirituality

Merging masculine structure with feminine flow, redefining success, and reclaiming self-worth in leadership

01:20:23 – Play, People & Personal Truths

Connect with Ashley and learn more:

Instagram: @hiveambition

Website: https://www.hiveambition.com/

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