My Predictive team and I are here to help make 2025 the year you CRUSH your goals — and elevate your agency to new heights.

In this episode of Sell With Authority, we’re diving into a topic that’s essential for scaling your business development efforts. If you’re carrying the full weight of biz dev on your shoulders — it’s time to change that.

At Predictive, we’ve spent years experimenting in our lab, gathering data points, and refining our Sell with Authority methodology—a proven framework to help you sell more of what you do for a higher fee.

That’s where my very special guest expert, Jason Swenk, and I are focusing our time and attention in this encore episode.

Jason is the Founder of Agency Mastery 360, a unique consultancy designed to help marketing agency owners — just like you and me — grow their agencies faster.

You may remember Jason from episode 77 — we first tackled the topic of building a sales team.

Today, we pick up where we left off — digging deeper into designing the right offers, setting up pricing for success, and creating a team structure that works for your agency.

Whether it’s about enrolling more of your team into the business development fold or building out a dedicated sales team to take on some of the heaviest lifting — this episode is for you.

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

• Why drilling down into your Ideal Client Profile (ICP) is the key to scaling faster
• How to craft and sell a compelling “foot in the door” offer that hooks clients
• Proven strategies for training and empowering a high-performing sales team
• Understanding prospect pain points and how to deliver exceptional value
• Using inbound, outbound, and strategic partnerships to build a robust lead generation system
• Key steps to lighten the sales burden off agency owners for more focus on growth

Resources:

• Website: https://www.agencymastery360.com/
• LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonswenk/
• LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/agency-mastery/
• Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/jasonswenk
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jswenk/

I am beyond thrilled to welcome our special guest expert to this episode of Sell With Authority, Dia Bondi. If you haven’t had the pleasure of meeting Dia yet — let me tell you — you’re in for a treat.

Dia works with senior leaders, founders, and ambitious professionals to help them find their voice — and lead with it. Her work has secured hundreds of millions of dollars in decisions and resources, paving the way for the future of their teams and businesses.

I first experienced Dia’s incredible power from the stage — and I do mean power — at the 2023 Build a Better Agency Summit. Dia didn’t just speak; she commanded. She took us on a journey, crafting every moment of her keynote with precision.

Her storytelling, her ability to connect, and the way she brought us all into her world was absolutely brilliant.

In today’s episode, Dia shares some of her most impactful frameworks for setting up the perfect ask with your right-fit clients and prospects.

Dia helps you take WHAT you say — and HOW you say it — to a whole new level of excellence.

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

• Why courageous communication leads to the most impactful outcomes
• How to prepare for — and excel in — high-stakes communication moments
• Why understanding your right-fit client’s needs should come before any pitch
• How to leverage storytelling for greater influence
• Why practicing what you preach is non-negotiable for authentic leadership
• How to use strategic asking as a success strategy

Resources:

• Website: https://www.diabondi.com/
• LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dia-bondi/
• LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dia-bondi/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diabondia/
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@diabondi
• Resources for Podcast Listeners: https://www.diabondi.com/swa
• Ask Like An Auctioneer: https://www.diabondi.com/book

Today we’re kicking off 2025 with a special solocast of Sell With Authority designed just for you — agency owners striving to elevate your business and maximize your revenue.

In this episode, I share an inspiring story that’s all about grit, perseverance, and relentless focus. It’s the incredible journey of Sylvester Stallone — yes, the legendary Rocky and Rambo — who overcame staggering setbacks and rejection to become one of Hollywood’s most iconic figures.

Stallone’s story is a masterclass in following one course until success, or “F.O.C.U.S.” — a philosophy championed by John Lee Dumas on the Entrepreneurs on Fire podcast.

From enduring over 1,500 rejections to navigating immense personal hardship, Stallone’s unwavering commitment to his vision is a powerful reminder of what’s possible when you refuse to give up.

Relentless F.O.C.U.S. and dogged determination can turn dreams into reality.

Whether 2024 has been triumphant or tough for your agency — this episode offers a dose of inspiration and practical insights to make 2025 your best year yet!

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

What you will learn in this episode:

• Follow one course until success — F.O.C.U.S.
• How one of Hollywood’s most successful actors of all time overcame over 1,500 rejections to become an icon
• You can transform rejection and adversity into fuel for your dreams
• Why changing your approach could be crucial to finding success
• How mindset and perseverance can set you apart from your competitors

• Website: www.predictiveroi.com
• Visit our newly expanded Resource Library
• Join us in our free How to Fill Your Sales Pipeline Facebook Group
• Stephen’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stephenwoessner/
• Order your free paperback or Kindle copy of our Book: Sell with Authority

I am super excited about this very special episode of Sell with Authority — because we’ve got something extra special for you.

We invited Susan Baier — the Founder and CEO of Audience Audit and our brilliant research partner here at Predictive ROI — back for a rock-solid encore interview.

When we go into the field to uncover the golden nuggets of insight that we turn around and share with you, it’s Susan and her incredible team — alongside our very own Hannah Roth, Predictive’s Director of Strategy and resident Mad Scientist — who are doing all of the digging and heavy lifting to make that happen.

Susan joins Hannah and I today to peel back the layers on a timely topic — the growing demand for agencies to provide specific metrics and results to their clients.

At Predictive, we firmly believe — just like Susan does — that everything is measurable. But — sometimes, you and your team need to think outside the box to uncover the story behind the data. And that’s exactly what we explore in today’s conversation.

Susan shares recommendations for some unique and creative ways agencies can measure the metrics that matter.

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

• How the increasing client demand for visible data over the last decade has affected agencies
• The challenges in providing the metrics that matter and how to overcome them
• Why strategic partners can offer the guidance you need in measuring the most meaningful data points
• Why asking the right questions is the Golden Ticket
• How to leverage AI in making data analysis more efficient and cost-effective

Resources:

• Website: https://audienceaudit.com/
• LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanbaieraz/
• LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/audience-audit-inc./
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AudienceAudit/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/susanbaier

This episode of Sell With Authority just might make you rethink everything you know about pricing.

For today’s show, we invited Casey Brown to join us. She’s the Founder of Boost Pricing and proudly calls herself a “Pricing Geek.”

Casey was also one of the phenomenal keynote speakers at this year’s Build a Better Agency Summit. Hannah Roth and I were sitting front and center for her talk, and when Casey finished, we looked at each other and said, “Wow. Casey is brilliant—we have to get her on the podcast.”

And Holy Bananas — she said yes!

Our conversation today helps demystify pricing once and for all. Casey’s here to arm you with new strategies and tactics so you can confidently price your agency’s services and increase your profits.

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

• How fear can dictate your pricing decisions — and how you can avoid letting it
• The significance of the acronym W.A.I.T. (Why Am I Talking?) in pricing conversations
• Framing strategies when introducing charges to clients to ensure they grasp the value
• Identifying services/products as “gasoline” or “hot sauce” to find the hidden value-laden items in your offering
• The mindset shift needed for agency owners to command higher prices confidently

Resources:

• Website: https://boostpricing.com/
• LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseybrownboost/
• LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boostpricing/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/pricingcasey
• Fearless Pricing: Ignite Your Team, Own Your Value, and Command What You Deserve

For over 30 years, I’ve worked in the trenches of agency new business strategy, working alongside and consulting with hundreds of agencies, business coaches, and consultants — teaching them how to plant their flag of authority within the markets they serve, grow their audience, and fill their sales pipeline with a steady stream of right-fit clients so they can win new business.

I founded Predictive ROI in 2009 and remain its CEO and co-owner, working alongside my business partner, Erik Jensen. I host the “Onward Nation” and “Sell with Authority” podcasts with listeners in over 140 countries and over 1,000 episodes. My agency new business and marketing insights have been featured in major media, and I’m the bestselling author of five books, including my latest entitled, “Sell With Authority.”

Here’s my hope for this solocast – to share an overall framework and principles for how you can architect your conversations with prospective clients so the discussions are super helpful to your prospects — and so the sessions feel like teaching. But — what you’re actually doing is demonstrating your methodology in action. And when you do that with excellence — there will be a moment in your discussion where your prospect says something like, “Wait a minute…I see what you’re doing here…and it’s awesome!”

It is absolutely possible to teach and sell simultaneously — and I’ll show you how in this episode.

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

• How the “10 Truths of what makes someone an authority” play a vital role in this process
• Why beginning with the end in mind is a must if you’re going to architect the right conversation with a prospect
• Why teaching and selling simultaneously must begin with you “Eating your own dog food”
• How to demonstrate your methodology in action during the sales process
• How to “break the 4th wall” with your prospect in order to bring it all together

• Website: www.predictiveroi.com
• Visit our newly expanded Resource Library
• Join us in our free How to Fill Your Sales Pipeline Facebook Group
• Stephen’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stephenwoessner/
• Order your free paperback or Kindle copy of our Book: Sell with Authority

I’m thrilled about welcoming today’s guest expert to join us on this episode of Sell With Authority, Katy Doss. Katy is the Founder and CEO of Script Marketing and Here Molly Girl.

She owns and leads not one — but TWO agencies!

Let me set the stage for why we thought this conversation would be so valuable.

Katy took a bold, creative leap when steering her agency into a niche. Instead of gradually repositioning her agency over a couple of years — she and her team dove headfirst into the deep end by creating an entirely new agency focused on their target niche.

Katy shares her remarkable journey of transforming her generalist agency, Here Molly Girl, into the niche powerhouse that is Script Marketing.

Running two agencies at the same time creates some unique challenges. We talk with Katy about how she prioritizes the moving pieces — and keeps all of this running smoothly while balancing the demands of two agencies.

Katy and her team show up like true partners — moving away from tactical, “vendor-like” conversations — to leading with outcomes.

I’m saying “us” because Hannah Roth is also joining this episode. She’s our Director of Strategy and resident Mad Scientist here at Predictive. Hannah works directly with clients every single day, helping them drive results — and sell more of what they do.

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

• The first step to getting intentional about biz dev
• Why asking strategic questions and actively listening is key to building meaningful right-fit client relationships
• The value of strategic partnerships over vendor relationships
• Why niching down is essential for long-term agency success and sustainability
• How Katy successfully narrowed her agency’s focus
• Emphasizing value-based pricing and selling outcomes — rather than deliverables

Resources:

• Website: https://scriptmarketingco.com/
• Facebook Personal: https://www.facebook.com/katyharperdoss.art/
• Facebook Business: https://www.facebook.com/scriptmarketingco/
• LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katyharperdoss/
• LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/script-marketing-co/
• Twitter Personal: https://x.com/katyharperdoss
• Twitter Business: https://x.com/ScriptMktgCo
• Instagram Business: https://www.instagram.com/scriptmarketingco/
• Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/scriptmarketingco/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ScriptMarketingCo
• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/62cdForlAnnBsOAUXccsKE
• Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-affluent-buyer-script/id1758125214

I’m excited to welcome our guest expert to this episode of Sell With Authority, Sara Hanlon. Sara is the President and Co-Founder of Peer Sales Agency, a B2B marketing agency that’s all about driving sales.

If you’re meeting Sara for the first time, let me tell you — she’s not only super smart when it comes to B2B sales strategy, but she’s also created resources — like the B2B Sales Leader Guide — that can really help agencies level up.

With her deep expertise in sales-oriented B2B marketing, Sara shares helpful strategies on how to shift sales conversations towards a more research-oriented approach. It’s about truly understanding your clients’ pain points and goals — at every stage of the buyer’s journey.

Sara breaks down the essential approach of creating problem-focused content at the top of the funnel, introducing solutions in the middle, and building trust at the bottom with testimonials and case studies. She shares the “five deposits, one withdrawal” strategy for engaging right-fit clients and nurturing long-term relationships.

Some parts of today’s conversation might feel like a push — and that’s okay.

Other parts — you’ll likely find yourself nodding along, thinking, “Yep, we’ve got that one locked in.”

If you take Sara’s insights to heart and apply them, you’ll be positioned to sell more of what you do — for higher fees — and head into 2025 ready to raise the bar of excellence.

A big dose of gratitude to our presenting sponsor for the podcast, Conduit Digital. By using their expertise in streamlining, upgrading & scaling your clients…they promise to reduce your risk so you can become the best digital agency in your market in 30 days. You can find Conduit and all their helpful insights and smarts here.

• How to transition from win or lose sales outcomes to a research-oriented approach
• Uncovering client pain points using the Discovery framework
• Crafting content strategies tailored for the top, middle, and bottom of your sales funnel
• Utilizing the “five deposits, one withdrawal” method to foster meaningful right-fit client relationships
• How to avoid common mistakes in agency pitches
• Leveraging consistent, value-rich interactions to build trust over time
• Which email you should never send

Resources:

• Website: http://www.peersalesagency.com/
• Sales Leaders Guide: https://peersalesagency.com/a-sales-leaders-guide-to-creating-b2b-buyer-personas/
• LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahanlon/
• LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/peer-sales/