🧩 Season Theme: Unmade
This season, we walk into the unexpected—where life unravels, dreams collapse, and identities shift. But sometimes, being unmade is the first step toward being remade. What do we do when the timeline of our lives breaks beyond repair?

👣 Guest Introduction:
This week, I’m joined by Jill Pavlov, a magnetic voice in the world of messaging and storytelling. She’s the founder of Copy POP!, where she helps women transform the chaos in their heads into powerful words they’re proud to say out loud. Jill is helping in assisting entrepreneurs clarify their brand message. She was an entertainment reporter, learning firsthand how presence, performance, and storytelling can command a room.

In this episode, Jill opens up with raw honesty about her battle with eating disorders and addiction — the parts of her story that were messy, hidden, and tangled. With courage and insight, she shares how being unmade cracked her open, eventually giving her the clarity and confidence she brings to her work today.

💡 Episode Highlights:

What it means to be part of the 9%: the estimated portion of the U.S. population who will face an eating disorder

Why the struggle often remains unseen, especially for women in their 40s and 50s

Jill’s journey through addiction, disordered eating, and the turning point toward healing

How clutter, both internal and external, reflects the chaos of our lives — and how we begin to clear it

The parallels between making a bed and rebuilding a life

Why storytelling isn’t just about words, but about reclaiming your voice

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🎙️ Episode Title:

"🐛 Hungry Caterpillar"

Season of Unmade — In this season, we explore what happens when life takes us apart, only to reveal who we were truly meant to be. Sometimes we have to be unmade to be remade. 🔄🦋

What’s your greatest pet peeve? 😤 Maybe it's slow drivers 🚗💨, loud chewing 😬, or people who always interrupt. But for today’s guest, Jordan Miller, it's something deeper: accepting things as truth without asking the hard questions. ❓🧠

Jordan was raised as a devout member of the LDS (Latter-day Saint) faith 🙏. He believed. He served. He followed. But inside, a hunger began to grow — a hunger for authenticity, for answers, for truth. 🌱

Eventually, he stepped away from everything he knew to become a truth seeker 🧭. Inspired by his childhood fascination with Bill Nye the Science Guy 🔬🧪, Jordan now approaches life like a science experiment — testing, questioning, and evolving.

Just like a caterpillar, always hungry for more 🐛, Jordan’s journey is one of continuous transformation. 👉 Join me as I step into Jordan’s shoes.

💬 What was it like growing up in the LDS community

⚖️ Wrestling with doubt, truth, and letting go

🔭 How science and critical thinking became guiding forces

🧪 Life as a spiritual experiment

🐛 The metaphor of the hungry caterpillar — growing through curiosity and change

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Stepping into Other People’s Shoes helps us see the world 🌎 through their steps and sometimes, discover the hunger within our hearts.🩵

🎙️ Episode Title:

"Just 2 Minutes: What a Mirror Can Teach You About Who You Really Are"

Season of Self-Reflection — In the noise of everyday life, it's easy to underestimate what can happen in a short window of time. But what if just two minutes ⏱️ could start to shift your mindset 🧠, your confidence 💪, and even the course of your day 🌅?

Today’s guest, Kaitlyn Cook—that’s Kaitlyn with a K from the UK 🇬🇧—joins us from across the ocean 🌍 with a story that might just change how you see your own reflection—literally 🪞.

As a coach 🎯, digital nomad 🧳, and entrepreneur 💼, Kaitlyn helps people realign their lives with their deepest values 💖. But her own journey started with a feeling many of us know all too well: burnout 🔥.

After walking away 🚶‍♀️ from a corporate job and the conventional path she was “supposed” to follow, Kaitlyn began rebuilding her identity—starting with intentional moments in the mirror 🔄. Her personal mission is now centered around helping others create sustainable change 🌱 by showing up honestly—even if it’s only for two minutes a day ⏰.

In this episode, Kaitlyn opens up about what those two minutes have taught her—and how they can teach you, too. 💡

🌍 The digital nomad life: Why Kaitlyn chose to leave it all behind and travel the world

🔑 A defining decision: The moment that cracked open her perspective on time, energy, and self-trust

🪞 Mirror moments: How 120 seconds of eye contact with yourself can break old patterns and build new courage

🧘 The power of presence: Why being brutally honest with yourself is one of the most empowering things you can do

💪 Confidence isn’t built in hours—it’s built in minutes: How short, intentional practices can reshape how you show up in your life

🌱 Why starting small is the bravest move of all

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What could you change in just two minutes? ⏳ Today’s conversation is both a challenge and an invitation 📨.

The next time you find yourself in front of a mirror, take a breath 🧘, look yourself in the eye 👁️, and speak truth over your life 💬. No filters, no distractions—just two minutes of you with you.

If Kaitlyn’s story moved you ❤️, share this episode with a friend 🤝 who might need a reminder that small things can still spark big change ⚡. And if you haven’t already, leave us a review ⭐—your words mean the world 🌍 and help more people step into Other People’s Shoes 👟.

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🎙 Mind Reset: Mark Anthony

👤 Guest Intro:
Laughter, entertainment, just playing around, hoodwinked, hypnosis, bamboozled — today’s episode might start with a few laughs, but don’t be fooled. My guest, world-renowned hypnotist Mark Anthony, brings a story that’s anything but a trick. Raised in the chaos of Southeast London — surrounded by violence, abandonment, and addiction — Mark’s life spiraled through crime, prison, and pain.

But behind bars, he made one life-altering decision.
And that choice became the mind reset that changed everything.

⚠️ Important Warning:
While hypnosis can be a powerful tool for healing and transformation, it is not a game. In the wrong hands, it can be dangerous and even destructive. Please use extreme caution when exploring hypnosis and always seek trained, ethical professionals.

🎧 Episode Highlights:

With a violent and chaotic childhood, Mark fought to survive

How abandonment, abuse, and betrayal shaped his early years

The moment in prison that shifted everything

Discovering hypnosis — and how it gave him his life back

Why Mark’s story isn’t about tricks, but transformation

Using hypnotism to help others rise above the mess

The powerful reminder: It’s not where you start, it’s what you choose

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Mark Anthony’s Book link

Social Handle @markanthonyhypnotist

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If you've ever believed your past was too broken to come back from, let this episode be your wake-up call. Share it with someone who needs a mind reset of their own. And don’t forget to rate and leave a review — your voice helps others find hope in their hardest moments.

🎙️ Broken Timeline

❓ True or False: Does Time Really Heal ALL Wounds?

🧩 Season Theme: Unmade
This season on Other People’s Shoes, we explore what happens when life falls apart—when plans unravel, timelines break, and we’re left standing in the pieces. But sometimes, being unmade is what allows us to be remade into something stronger, deeper, and more real.

👣 Guest Introduction:
In 2012, Debbie White Wilkins Baisden’s timeline shattered. Her husband disappeared without warning, gone for 40 unbearable hours. When he was found, her reality shifted forever. Debbie became a widow at just 35. Now left to raise four sons—ages 8, 7, and 4-year-old twins—she stepped into a life she never planned for, marked by sorrow, strength, and spiritual discovery.

So, does time really heal all wounds—or does it simply teach us how to carry them? Join me as I walk in Debbie’s shoes through a "Broken Timeline" and discover the truth behind the pain and the possibility of healing. ⏳💔

✨ Episode Highlights:

❓ True or false? The myth and reality of time as a healer.

⏱️ What it was like living through 40 hours of fear and uncertainty.

👩‍👦‍👦 The emotional weight of parenting through profound loss.

🙏 How faith played a role in navigating grief and resilience.

🔄 The power of perspective, and how brokenness can birth unexpected strength.

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🎙️ Season 20 Premiere: “Realigning the Compass” with Best-Selling Author Shaun Grant

Ever feel like you're navigating life with a broken compass? One minute you're heading north, the next you're spinning in circles—disoriented, overwhelmed, and unsure where you went off track. In this powerful kickoff to Season 20, we dive into what it means to be unmade —to sit in the mess, the unknown, the in-between—and discover it’s not the end, but the beginning.

Joining us today is Shaun Grant, best-selling author and transformational speaker, whose life is living proof that clarity often comes from chaos. With seven books to his name, Sean has mastered the art of realignment—not just writing about transformation, but living it every day.

What it feels like to lose direction—and how to find your way back

Why your “unmade” moments might be sacred invitations

The power of surrender, trust, and divine timing

How to shift your mindset from “waiting” to welcoming what’s next

A sneak peek into Sean’s latest book and the bold question it asks:
Who would you be if you believed everything you wanted was already on its way , guaranteed, right on time?

This conversation is more than just a story—it’s a call to realign your inner compass, breathe easier, and step boldly into the life that’s waiting for you. Join me as I step into Shaun's shoes.

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Season Finale – Heart Pain (Unedited & Unfiltered)
🎙 Other People's Shoes Podcast – Season 19: X-Ray

"This is the first episode I’ve ever released completely raw—no edits, no filters. Just real, unflinching truth. It’s a big step for me… and maybe it will be for you, too."

Are you haunted by the pain of sexual trauma?
Do you carry shame, anxiety, and anger like a second skin?
Does healing feel like a far-off dream you’re unsure how to reach?

In this powerful and deeply personal season finale, I sit down with Nancy Manassero, author of Heartmending, who shares her raw and redemptive journey through sexual trauma, and how Christ met her in the middle of the pain.

Nancy’s story is not just about surviving—it’s about reclaiming joy, wholeness, and identity. Through Scripture, research, prayer, and vulnerability, she invites others to:

♥ Overcome shame that silences
♥ Make peace with the “why”
♥ Establish healing soul-care habits
♥ Break free from forgiveness myths
♥ Discover lasting freedom and hope

If you’ve been living in survival mode, it's time to step out.
If you’ve been waiting for a sign that healing is possible, this is it.

This episode is raw, real, and resurrecting.
It’s the kind of conversation that may start your journey toward mending your heart.

🎧 Listen in—and maybe, just maybe, find what your soul’s been searching for.

Let me know if you'd like any other adjustments!, author of Heartmending, who shares her raw and redemptive journey through sexual trauma, and how Christ met her in the middle of the pain.

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Nancy’s story is not just about surviving—it’s about reclaiming joy, wholeness, and identity. Through Scripture, research, prayer, and vulnerability, she invites others to:

♥ Overcome shame that silences
♥ Make peace with the “why”
♥ Establish healing soul-care habits
♥ Break free from forgiveness myths
♥ Discover lasting freedom and hope

If you’ve been living in survival mode, it's time to step out.
If you’ve been waiting for a sign that healing is possible, this is it.

This episode is raw, real, and resurrecting.
It’s the kind of conversation that may start your journey toward mending your heart.

🎧 Listen in—and maybe, just maybe, find what your soul’s been searching for.

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In this powerful episode of Other People's Shoes, we explore the true meaning of transformation — not just physically, but emotionally and mentally. Much like the 80s classic Transformers cartoon, where characters could shift into stronger, more capable versions of themselves, today’s guest, Roman Fischer reveals how he tapped into that same transformative power through fitness. Bullied and body-shamed growing up, Roman struggled with negative thoughts and the pain of others’ judgments. But everything changed when he discovered the gym. What started as a way to escape became a path to empowerment. Through the discipline of weight lifting, Roman found confidence, clarity, and control over his own narrative.

We dive into:

Roman’s early experiences with bullying and self-doubt

How fitness became a safe place for growth and healing

The mindset shift that helped him overcome negativity

Why it’s never too late to start your health journey

The power of routine and showing up, even on the hard days

His favorite quote: "Motivation gets you going, but consistency keeps you growing."

If you've ever struggled to take the first step toward your goals or felt limited by your past. Roman reminds us all that we are more than meets the eye — and that the strongest transformation always starts within. Join me as I walk in Roman's shoes.

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