🧩 Season Theme: Unmade
This season, we walk into the unexpected—where life unravels, dreams collapse, and identities shift. But sometimes, being unmade is the first step toward being remade. What do we do when the timeline of our lives breaks beyond repair?

👣 Guest Introduction:
This week, I’m joined by Jill Pavlov, a magnetic voice in the world of messaging and storytelling. She’s the founder of Copy POP!, where she helps women transform the chaos in their heads into powerful words they’re proud to say out loud. Jill is helping in assisting entrepreneurs clarify their brand message. She was an entertainment reporter, learning firsthand how presence, performance, and storytelling can command a room.

In this episode, Jill opens up with raw honesty about her battle with eating disorders and addiction — the parts of her story that were messy, hidden, and tangled. With courage and insight, she shares how being unmade cracked her open, eventually giving her the clarity and confidence she brings to her work today.

💡 Episode Highlights:

What it means to be part of the 9%: the estimated portion of the U.S. population who will face an eating disorder

Why the struggle often remains unseen, especially for women in their 40s and 50s

Jill’s journey through addiction, disordered eating, and the turning point toward healing

How clutter, both internal and external, reflects the chaos of our lives — and how we begin to clear it

The parallels between making a bed and rebuilding a life

Why storytelling isn’t just about words, but about reclaiming your voice

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🎙️ Episode Title:

"🐛 Hungry Caterpillar"

Season of Unmade — In this season, we explore what happens when life takes us apart, only to reveal who we were truly meant to be. Sometimes we have to be unmade to be remade. 🔄🦋

What’s your greatest pet peeve? 😤 Maybe it's slow drivers 🚗💨, loud chewing 😬, or people who always interrupt. But for today’s guest, Jordan Miller, it's something deeper: accepting things as truth without asking the hard questions. ❓🧠

Jordan was raised as a devout member of the LDS (Latter-day Saint) faith 🙏. He believed. He served. He followed. But inside, a hunger began to grow — a hunger for authenticity, for answers, for truth. 🌱

Eventually, he stepped away from everything he knew to become a truth seeker 🧭. Inspired by his childhood fascination with Bill Nye the Science Guy 🔬🧪, Jordan now approaches life like a science experiment — testing, questioning, and evolving.

Just like a caterpillar, always hungry for more 🐛, Jordan’s journey is one of continuous transformation. 👉 Join me as I step into Jordan’s shoes.

💬 What was it like growing up in the LDS community

⚖️ Wrestling with doubt, truth, and letting go

🔭 How science and critical thinking became guiding forces

🧪 Life as a spiritual experiment

🐛 The metaphor of the hungry caterpillar — growing through curiosity and change

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Stepping into Other People’s Shoes helps us see the world 🌎 through their steps and sometimes, discover the hunger within our hearts.🩵

🎙️ Episode Title:

"Just 2 Minutes: What a Mirror Can Teach You About Who You Really Are"

Season of Self-Reflection — In the noise of everyday life, it's easy to underestimate what can happen in a short window of time. But what if just two minutes ⏱️ could start to shift your mindset 🧠, your confidence 💪, and even the course of your day 🌅?

Today’s guest, Kaitlyn Cook—that’s Kaitlyn with a K from the UK 🇬🇧—joins us from across the ocean 🌍 with a story that might just change how you see your own reflection—literally 🪞.

As a coach 🎯, digital nomad 🧳, and entrepreneur 💼, Kaitlyn helps people realign their lives with their deepest values 💖. But her own journey started with a feeling many of us know all too well: burnout 🔥.

After walking away 🚶‍♀️ from a corporate job and the conventional path she was “supposed” to follow, Kaitlyn began rebuilding her identity—starting with intentional moments in the mirror 🔄. Her personal mission is now centered around helping others create sustainable change 🌱 by showing up honestly—even if it’s only for two minutes a day ⏰.

In this episode, Kaitlyn opens up about what those two minutes have taught her—and how they can teach you, too. 💡

🌍 The digital nomad life: Why Kaitlyn chose to leave it all behind and travel the world

🔑 A defining decision: The moment that cracked open her perspective on time, energy, and self-trust

🪞 Mirror moments: How 120 seconds of eye contact with yourself can break old patterns and build new courage

🧘 The power of presence: Why being brutally honest with yourself is one of the most empowering things you can do

💪 Confidence isn’t built in hours—it’s built in minutes: How short, intentional practices can reshape how you show up in your life

🌱 Why starting small is the bravest move of all

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What could you change in just two minutes? ⏳ Today’s conversation is both a challenge and an invitation 📨.

The next time you find yourself in front of a mirror, take a breath 🧘, look yourself in the eye 👁️, and speak truth over your life 💬. No filters, no distractions—just two minutes of you with you.

If Kaitlyn’s story moved you ❤️, share this episode with a friend 🤝 who might need a reminder that small things can still spark big change ⚡. And if you haven’t already, leave us a review ⭐—your words mean the world 🌍 and help more people step into Other People’s Shoes 👟.

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