In the latest Wiser Loyalty podcast, Aaron Dauphinee of the Wise Marketer Group, speaks with industry loyalty operations expert, Nadine Rubin. Nadine shares her thoughts on the characteristics and skills needed to be successful in loyalty operations after a 25+ year career in the industry.

She also shares her vast experience, in particular while launching the Shoppers Drug Mart Optimum program in Canada as an alternative to coalition loyalty models that were dominating the market. Nadine does a compare and contrast of then versus now in loyalty and outlines some successes and wins: ensuring the immediacy of rewarding members, establishing program ambassadorship, testing with employees, etc.

Nadine closes by providing some thoughts and advice to a younger version of herself working in the 'loyalty industry'. This conversation is chalked full of insights and learning from someone that specializes in the unique area of Loyalty Operations.

Show Notes:

1) Nadine Rubin

2) Aaron Dauphinee

3) Wise Marketer Group

4) Drug Mart Optimum

5) The Invitation by Oriah (Book)

Today's episode of Let's Talk Loyalty & Loyalty TV is in Spanish.

Descubre las estrategias de lealtad que están marcando la pauta en el sector viajes online en nuestro nuevo episodio de Let's Talk Loyalty/

Recibimos a Alex Sánchez, líder del programa Pasaporte de Despegar y con una valiosa trayectoria en Club Premier. Alex nos comparte cómo Despegar fideliza a sus usuarios a través de beneficiostangibles como la acumulación de puntos y su innovadora tarjeta Invex.

En esta conversación, exploraremos cómo se pueden crear tiers de forma estructurada y alineada a los objetivos, además de la clave para combinar transacciones y experiencias en un programa de lealtad exitoso. ¡No te pierdas los insights de un experto! Escúchalo ahora.

Hosted by Alex Saul.

Show Notes:-

1)Alex Sánchez

2) Despegar

3)From Eternity to Here: The Quest for the Ultimate Theory of Time (Book)

This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.

I’m delighted to be today meeting with another Fortune 500 brand as we meet with Bank of America, one the world's largest banks.

According to its latest annual report, Bank of America now serves approximately 69 million consumer and small business clients, and surpassed $100 billion in revenue in 2024, with net income in excess of $27 BILLION.

As part of the bank’s celebrations for the ten year anniversary of its Preferred Rewards program, I am joined today by Shikha Narula, the Managing Director, Head of Consumer & Small Business Product Strategy, Transformation and Rewards at Bank of America.

Shikha shares some of their key achievements including a membership base of over 11 million members, a 99% retention rate, and some of their flagship partnerships such as their coffee / cash-back program with Starbucks in the US market.

Shikha also shares how their award-winning Preferred Rewards program really differs from other programs in the financial services industry.

Please enjoy our conversation.

Show Notes:

1) Shikha Narula

2) Bank of America

3) Bank of America Preferred Rewards® program

4) Coffee, meet Cash Back - Bank of America Promotion | Starbucks Rewards

5) Smart Brevity: The Power of Saying More with Less (Book)