Whether you're building a company, leading a team, or chasing storms, the messes you avoid at the top save you from chaos down below.

Shawn invites Jeff Shardell—former Google exec, founder of Humble Brands, and literal storm chaser—onto the show to unpack the Shawnism: “Get It Right At The Top And Everything Works Out.”

From leadership lessons to lightning strikes, Shawn and Jeff explore how simplicity, intentionality, and building the right team from the start can shape the entire culture of a company. They discuss the importance of recognizing your own strengths (and your competitors’ weaknesses), why innovation often rolls up from within, and how the best leaders know when to step in—and when to get out of the way.

Jeff also shares his wild passion for storm chasing and how the risk, unpredictability, and strategy required in the field mirror the very same traits needed in business.

If you want to build a company that grows in a way that lasts—start at the top, and everything else will follow.

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Hiring the right people is just the beginning; how you onboard them determines their success and, ultimately, the success of your company.

Shawn sits down with Adam Posner—host of The POZCast and founder of NHP Talent Group—to share their thoughts on the Shawnism "Through The Door Matters." The two break down why a thoughtful, intentional onboarding process is critical, and why investing time into new employees is an investment in the company itself.

They also discuss the hidden costs of poor onboarding, the art of setting and managing expectations, and why candidates need to take just as much responsibility in asking the right questions before accepting a role. Plus, Adam gives some great advice to anyone out there struggling to find a job: “Plan your work, and work your plan.”

From overcoming hiring biases to surrounding yourself with people who complement your weaknesses, this conversation is packed with insights to help you build a stronger, smarter team.

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It’s one thing to say you’ll be there—it’s another to actually show up when it counts.

Shawn (CEO of Lovesac) very comfortably sits down with Sean Mike Kelly, host of The Digital Social Hour Podcast, to break down the Shawnism “See Who Shows Up.”

The two talk about the power of a strong support system, the red flags in business relationships, and why working with friends can be a dangerous game. Sean reflects on how friends and family shape our journey, but their vision for us isn’t always our own. They also discuss why ego is the silent killer of relationships, the importance of recognizing naivete without losing optimism, and how friends and family can shape our journey, but their vision for us isn’t always our own.

And as Shawn and Sean both agree – If you have just five people who will truly show up for you, you’re already winning the game of life.

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