This is a solo episode where Matt sits down with Eric to discuss all things Former Thieves' "The Language That We Speak." We talk about Former Thieves running out of the gates on this album, the reception it was getting for live shows, and what the future may have (might still?) had in store for future music. Definitely worth a listen!

This is a solo episode where Matt sits down with Eric to discuss his musical journey from the scene elders in Iowa sharing the history and the ethics with him up through his life after Former Thieves. We discuss all sorts of interesting facts like soundproofing the practice space with disposed mattress cushions, Matt leaving Iowa after the band broke up, and his eventual return to the Midwest. We chart the musical direction the band would have gone on had Former Thieves not broken up (spoiler alert - they would've gone heavier) and his fond memories of his time in the band. Matt was a great conversationalist and you won't believe where his musical journey has taken him in his life right up to where he is now.

Nightjacket has an upcoming single release show for "My Only Heart" December 12 at Gold Diggers in Los Angeles. It will be released via Sonic Unyon Records. And the best news EVER!!!!! - Salem will be releasing a new song in early 2025 - Adam wrote the song and collaborated with two other Salem members - Jeremy Robertson and David Miller. I am so stoked to hear that when it comes out. Sit back and enjoy our deep dive with Adam D'Zurilla as we discuss everything that went into late-stage As Friends Rust, the evolution into Salem, and the six songs that were recorded that became their only release. You can hear Adam lament that his favorite song "Amphetamine Crush" was only available on the European edition, some of the more interesting early production decisions like throwing in some random ball-squeezing screams, and how living in the shadow of As Friends Rust created certain expectations for Salem when touring. As you can expect with Adam, he's open and honest and willing to share a ton of stories. Listening to this will change the way you appreciate Salem, we guarantee.

https://www.instagram.com/harvardandstone/ https://www.instagram.com/nightjacketsound/ You won't want to miss our interview with Adam D'Zurilla as we talk about everything from As Friends Rust to current the state of live music. Adam shared with us his reflection of being in As Friends Rust coming in to replace Damien Moyal on vocals covering an interesting chapter in that band's career. We go in depth on Salem and what Adam did post Salem going in a different musical direction with Nightjacket. Adam is a big baseball fan so we go over his love of the Dodgers with some fun discussion of the Chicago baseball teams. Adam also shares a refreshing perspective on the live music scene as he manages a venue called Harvest and Stone with a long discussion on how smaller independent bands can survive in today's environment. We really enjoyed his honest and candid opinion on all topics, and we believe you will too when you catch part one of our discussion with Adam D'Zurilla.

A Dog Between Us available at:https://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/a-dog-between-us-novel/The City, Awake available athttps://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/the-city-awake-a-novel-duncan-b-barlow/Guilt - Bardstown Ugly Box Reissuehttps://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM068Guilt Shirt - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/GuiltTeeDuncan solo album - Colony Collapse: https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM0117" - Nietzschean Holiday - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM054 Dan and Eric sit back down with Duncan to do a deep dive on all things "Bardstown Ugly Box." We discuss the original release, the tragedy that resulted in a hurried and less focused final product, and the eventual opportunity to fully remix and remaster and re-release on Mind Over Matter Records, pulling together two additional tracks and finding new life for the album. If you're like us and you're fascinated with the this album and its evolution, you won't want to miss this episode!

A Dog Between Us available at: https://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/a-dog-between-us-novel/ The City, Awake available at https://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/the-city-awake-a-novel-duncan-b-barlow/ Guilt - Bardstown Ugly Box Reissue https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM068 Guilt Shirt - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/GuiltTee Duncan solo album - Colony Collapse: https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM011 7" - Nietzschean Holiday - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM054 Eric and Dan sit down with Duncan Barlow, a seminal figure in the history of the Louisville hardcore/punk scene to discuss all things Guilt, Step Down, Endpoint, and By the Grace of God. Duncan goes over his long career in music and we also touch on his literary career as he has published multiple novels and stories. Duncan is funny and open and doesn't hold back during this interview. You won't want to skip this one. We hope you enjoy listening to this interview as much as we enjoyed our conversation with Duncan. Please like, subscribe, comment and let us know what you think.

https://starkweather.bandcamp.com/music https://deathwishinc.com/collections/starkweather https://translationloss.com/products/crossbearer-into-the-wire-reissue Dan and I sit down over 30 years of Starkweather from their early days right up to them sitting on a treasure trove of songs yet to be recorded and released. We discuss how the lack of touring likely was a direct contributor to Starkweather remaining one of the best (and most important/influential) bands you've *NEVER* heard of, the importance of evolving as a band and as musicians, and so much more. We talk about Rennie's love of hockey, his interest in noir films, and what he brings to the table lyrically, taken from his own experiences and his passion for weird fiction. This is a great conversation you won't want to miss. All songs used with permission - "Bustuari" taken from "This Sheltering Night" on Deathwish, Inc and "Hushabye : Goodnight" taken from "Croatoan" on Hypertension Records (vinyl) and Candlelight Records (CD).

https://starkweather.bandcamp.com/music https://deathwishinc.com/collections/starkweather https://translationloss.com/products/crossbearer-into-the-wire-reissue Dan and I sit down over 30 years of Starkweather from their early days right up to them sitting on a treasure trove of songs yet to be recorded and released. We discuss how the lack of touring likely was a direct contributor to Starkweather remaining one of the best (and most important/influential) bands you've *NEVER* heard of, the importance of evolving as a band and as musicians, and so much more. We talk about Rennie's love of hockey, his interest in noir films, and what he brings to the table lyrically, taken from his own experiences and his passion for weird fiction. This is a great conversation you won't want to miss. All songs used with permission - "Bustuari" taken from "This Sheltering Night" on Deathwish, Inc and "Hushabye : Goodnight" taken from "Croatoan" on Hypertension Records (vinyl) and Candlelight Records (CD).