This is a solo episode where Matt sits down with Eric to discuss all things Former Thieves' "The Language That We Speak." We talk about Former Thieves running out of the gates on this album, the reception it was getting for live shows, and what the future may have (might still?) had in store for future music. Definitely worth a listen!

This is a solo episode where Matt sits down with Eric to discuss his musical journey from the scene elders in Iowa sharing the history and the ethics with him up through his life after Former Thieves. We discuss all sorts of interesting facts like soundproofing the practice space with disposed mattress cushions, Matt leaving Iowa after the band broke up, and his eventual return to the Midwest. We chart the musical direction the band would have gone on had Former Thieves not broken up (spoiler alert - they would've gone heavier) and his fond memories of his time in the band. Matt was a great conversationalist and you won't believe where his musical journey has taken him in his life right up to where he is now.

Nightjacket has an upcoming single release show for "My Only Heart" December 12 at Gold Diggers in Los Angeles. It will be released via Sonic Unyon Records. And the best news EVER!!!!! - Salem will be releasing a new song in early 2025 - Adam wrote the song and collaborated with two other Salem members - Jeremy Robertson and David Miller. I am so stoked to hear that when it comes out. Sit back and enjoy our deep dive with Adam D'Zurilla as we discuss everything that went into late-stage As Friends Rust, the evolution into Salem, and the six songs that were recorded that became their only release. You can hear Adam lament that his favorite song "Amphetamine Crush" was only available on the European edition, some of the more interesting early production decisions like throwing in some random ball-squeezing screams, and how living in the shadow of As Friends Rust created certain expectations for Salem when touring. As you can expect with Adam, he's open and honest and willing to share a ton of stories. Listening to this will change the way you appreciate Salem, we guarantee.