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Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, hosts Coach Susan and Coach Ruby are thrilled to sit down with Jolene Park, a sought-after speaker, functional nutritionist, and creator of the revolutionary NOURISH Method ™ for alcohol-free living. Jolene is perhaps best known for her groundbreaking TED Talk, which introduced the concept of “gray area drinking”—the space between occasional drinking and end-stage alcohol dependency. With more than 350,000 views, her talk has become a cornerstone for those who don’t identify as having hit “rock bottom,” yet know their relationship with alcohol isn’t serving them.

Jolene defines clearly what gray area drinking is and isn't and introduces her NOURISH Method ™, a physiology-first approach to healing that replaces guilt and deprivation with real, replenishing tools. From morning sunlight to magnesium, connection to curiosity—this isn’t about white-knuckling. It’s about resources.

Have you ever asked, "Is my drinking really a problem?" Or wondered why quitting feels so hard—even when you want to? This episode is your permission slip to get curious, not judgmental—and finally understand why alcohol might be numbing what actually needs care.

Episode Links & Resources:
Jolene Park’s TED Talk and Website: https://grayareadrinkers.com

Follow Jolene on Instagram: @jolene_park Substack: https://substack.com/@jolenepark
Find a Gray Area Drinking Coach: https://grayareadrinkers.com/find-a-coach/

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! So we created Feel Lit 21, a way for you to press your reset button and take a 21 day break from alcohol. Every day you will receive emails with videos, journal prompts, and the inspiration you need to embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!

Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, and ask us any questions you have about breaking free from wine or living an alcohol-free lifestyle.

Websites:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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What happens when one of New York’s top bartenders goes sober—and gets even better at his craft?
In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, Ruby and Susan sit down with award-winning bartender Chris Cardone, who’s flipping the script on what it means to thrive behind the bar—without drinking a drop. From winning the Diageo World Class US Bartender of the Year after going sober, to facing stigma in an industry where alcohol is king, Chris shares the raw truth about sobriety, success, and staying fully present in high-pressure spaces.

We dive into:

• What it’s really like to be a sober bartender
• How Chris is leading a movement to make bars more inclusive for alcohol-free guests
• Why your sobriety can actually elevate your creativity and connection (yes, even in the hospitality world!)

If you’ve ever wondered how to navigate social settings without alcohol, or you’re curious about how the drinking culture is evolving, this one’s a must-listen. Hit play and find out how living alcohol-free is no longer the exception—it’s the upgrade.

Connect with Chris Cardone:

• Continuous Beverage Solutions: Helping the hospitality world embrace alcohol-free inclusivity www.ContinuousBev.com
• Instagram: @continuousbev
• Email: Chris@continuousbev.com

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! So we created Feel Lit 21, a way for you to press your reset button and take a 21 day break from alcohol. Every day you will receive emails with videos, journal prompts, and the inspiration you need to embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!

Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, and ask us any questions you have about breaking free from wine or living an alcohol-free lifestyle.

Websites:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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What happens when you stop drinking—but the rest of your world doesn’t? In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, we’re diving into the heart-pounding moment every sober-curious soul eventually faces: telling friends and family, “I don’t drink anymore.”
Coaches (and co-hosts) Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin get real about the fears, awkwardness, and surprising freedom that comes with “coming out AF.” From dodging wine club gifts to crafting your alcohol-free elevator pitch, they’ll share the mindset shifts, boundary-setting tools, and hilarious stories that can turn dread into empowerment.
💭 How much do you share—and with whom?
💬 What if they react weirdly?
💡 Can this actually deepen your relationships?
Whether you’re brand new to alcohol-free living or quietly plotting your exit from wine culture, this episode offers the script, the courage, and the laughs you need to start owning your choice—on your terms.

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! So we created Feel Lit 21, a way for you to press your reset button and take a 21 day break from alcohol. Every day you will receive emails with videos, journal prompts, and the inspiration you need to embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!

Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, and ask us any questions you have about breaking free from wine or living an alcohol-free lifestyle.

Websites:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.