In this episode of Data Analytics Chat, host Ben Parker speaks with Aaron Hand, Chief Artificial Intelligence Officer at ArcelorMittal, about the reality of life in the C-suite.

Drawing on his experience in data roles at UBS and Holcim, and now leading AI strategy at a global giant, Aaron shares unfiltered insights into what makes or breaks a modern CDO.

You'll learn:

• What a typical day looks like at CDO/ CAIO level
• How to balance innovation, governance, and delivery
• The pressure of expectations vs. the pace of real change
• Why most CDOs don’t last more than 18 months — and how to beat the odds
• The importance of domain knowledge, adaptability, and listening
• How selling cement via WhatsApp became a game-changer
• Why “AI-first culture” must be more than just talk

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:41 Aaron Hand's Early Career Journey

02:26 Transition to AI and Big Data

03:38 Career Progression at UBS

05:21 Leading AI at Holstein

07:28 Role and Responsibilities of a CAIO

16:39 Challenges and Strategies in AI Implementation

25:27 The Importance of Good Management and Mentorship

26:11 Learning to Listen and Building Trust

26:44 Innovative Solutions and Team Collaboration

28:06 The Role of Workshops and Hackathons

29:34 Adapting Strategies and Embracing Flexibility

35:48 The Power of Podcasts and Continuous Learning

40:04 Facing Setbacks and Building Resilience

43:16 Reflecting on Career Achievements and the Journey

46:19 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Thank you for listening!