Today is the day! We're finally talking about our best friend (she doesn’t know it yet), Beth Allison Barr's, newest book: Becoming the Pastor’s Wife. Hang out with us while we uncover the ways the role of “pastor’s wife” has been shaped by patriarchy, not the Bible. Why have women been told that their calling to ministry means that they should marry a pastor? Why is it that when your husband gets a pulpit, you get a church organ and a casserole dish? Let’s unpack the expectations, the erasure, and what it means to reclaim your calling—without losing yourself in the process.

The western church's version of Jesus is too religious. Too focused on power, rules, and control—too busy legislating morality to look anything like, well, Jesus. If faith has been weaponized against you, if ‘Christian values’ seem more about politics than love, you’re not imagining it. Let’s talk about the difference between the real Jesus and the one wrapped in red, white, and blue. This week, we're wrapping up Steve Bezner’s Your Jesus is Too American and talking more about what it really means to follow Jesus when even Christianity doesn't look much like Him.

Our best friend, Beth Allison Barr, came to town, and you know we had to be there. We sat front and center for her talk on biblical womanhood, patriarchy, and why history is way less patriarchal than certain church leaders want it to be. She didn’t hold back, and honestly, we loved every second of it. In this episode, we’re recapping the highlights, sharing our favorite moments, and, of course, talking about "Becoming the Pastor's Wife." Oh, and did we totally fangirl? Maybe. No regrets.