If you're treating HR like a cost center, you're already behind. In this episode of Unfinished Business, host David Sliman sits down with John Bernatovicz, Founder of Willory and author of HR Like a Boss, to talk about the business of people and how HR leaders can become some of the most transformational voices in any company.

From his early ADP days to building a top-tier consulting firm named after his kids (Will + Mallory = Willory), John shares the journey, mindset, and hard-won lessons behind his people-first leadership model. He unpacks why purpose, clear core values, and emotional intelligence aren't soft skills, they're strategic assets.

Key Takeaways:

• “Empower people” isn’t a slogan, it’s Willory’s DNA
• Clarity over complexity: how short, focused job descriptions and core values create better hires and stronger teams
• Don’t force it: why John says, “If you’re trying to fall in love, don’t force it,” especially in hiring

🎙️ Podcast Quote: "We empower people. That’s our purpose. It’s aspirational, we may never reach everyone, but we’ll damn well try." – John Bernatovicz

If you're an HR pro, CEO, or leader who actually cares about building a values-driven team, this one’s for you. Share it with someone ready to lead like a boss and subscribe to Unfinished Business for more real talk on leadership, culture, and strategy.

Connect with John Bernatovicz:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbernatovicz/
• Website: www.willory.com
• Website: www.hrlikeaboss.com
• Cell: 330-819-1126
• Email: john@willory.com

Connect with David Sliman

• Website: http://salesproformance.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidslimansalespro/
• Linktr: https://linktr.ee/salesproformance
• YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SalesProformancePCS

• Email: GoPro@SalesProformance.com

This episode is brought to you by Unfinished Business, where we dive deep into the journeys of people who are reshaping what success looks like. Make sure to tune in for more episodes that’ll inspire your own entrepreneurial path!

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When it comes to buying your first home, it’s not just about the down payment, it’s about being financially and emotionally prepared.

In this episode of Unfinished Business, David Sliman sits down with Brian Vieaux, President and COO of FinLocker, to break down the tools, timing, and mindset needed to build wealth through real estate.

Brian shares the real reason he left corporate comfort to lead a fintech startup focused on financial literacy and homeownership readiness. From helping consumers track credit, savings, debt-to-income, and employment health (all inside one app) he’s on a mission to change how we prepare for financial success.

Key Takeaways:

• “Credit optimization” matters more than you think – Why building a profile early beats fixing it late. Renting is more expensive than you think – How to plan and buy even with rising interest rates.
• The four metrics of readiness – Assets, credit, income/employment, and debt-to-income: the real pillars of sustainable homeownership.

🎙️ Podcast Quote: "You can be a victim or a victor, be a victor." – Brian Vieaux

🚀 Like this episode? Share it with someone on the path to homeownership and subscribe to Unfinished Business for more bold conversations on leadership, mindset, and financial growth.

Connect with Brian Vieaux:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianvieaux/
• Website: https://finlocker.com/

Connect with David Sliman

• Website: http://salesproformance.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidslimansalespro/
• Linktr: https://linktr.ee/salesproformance
• YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SalesProformancePCS

• Email: GoPro@SalesProformance.com

This episode is brought to you by Unfinished Business, where we dive deep into the journeys of people who are reshaping what success looks like. Make sure to tune in for more episodes that’ll inspire your own entrepreneurial path!

Developed by TMX Creative – making podcasting easy and professional. Learn more about our video editing services and how we can help you grow!

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What happens when your work culture feels disconnected, your tools feel clunky, and your people are burning out?

In this episode of Unfinished Business, David Sliman sits down with Dane Groeneveld, CEO and Founding Partner of Lead3r, to get real about what actually drives team performance and why most companies get it wrong.

Dane’s “SHOW UP” framework (Story, Health, Outside Influence, Work) breaks down how leaders can build trust, clarity, and alignment in fast-moving, hybrid environments. From the science of storytelling in leadership to practical strategies for increasing psychological safety, Dane shares how better teams build better companies and better people.

Key Takeaways:

• Clarity is not micromanagement – Set the story, share the why, and invite your team to co-author the next chapter.
• Health isn’t just personal, it’s organizational – Burnout doesn’t scale. Well-being drives performance.
• Connection beats process – Technology is a tool, not the answer. It's how you use it that creates real teamwork.

🎙️ Podcast Quote: "To be a great leader, you’ve got to be a great follower sometimes." – David Sliman

Don’t just build teams, build trust, purpose, and performance. Share this episode with a fellow leader or teammate and subscribe to Unfinished Business for more real talk on what works in business today.

Connect with Dane Groeneveld:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danegroeneveld/
• Website: https://lead3r.com/
• Podcast: The Future of Teamwork

Connect with David Sliman

• Website: http://salesproformance.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidslimansalespro/
• Linktr: https://linktr.ee/salesproformance
• YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SalesProformancePCS
• Email: GoPro@SalesProformance.com

This episode is brought to you by Unfinished Business, where we dive deep into the journeys of people who are reshaping what success looks like. Make sure to tune in for more episodes that’ll inspire your own entrepreneurial path!

Developed by TMX Creative – making podcasting easy and professional. Learn more about our video editing services and how we can help you grow!

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