Joe is in the hot seat this week, with renowned Pennsylvania psychotherapist Katie Young delicately turning the tables on Joe and the circumstances that led to his divorces. Joe describes himself as a ‘right fighter’ — he doesn’t pick a fight unless he’s heard. Katie asks him to reflect on whether he wants to be right, or whether he wants to be heard.

Being heard, and then being understood, is more important than being right as we navigate new ways to deflate our destructive ego using things like IMAGO dialogue, and some other techniques offered by the brilliant Katie Young on this episode of Divorce and Conquer.

The soft side of Joe Staszak is something all men can relate to as we learn to be present and keep our emotions in check so that we can keep our marriage on track. Let the big dog hunt, sure. But maybe there’s a catch-and-release at play here if we’re in it for the long run and are looking to preserve our marriage while acting with integrity? 

So put that ego aside and avoid that collateral damage with this lighthearted yet well-meaning episode of Divorce and Conquer as we save you the time and trouble of therapy with lessons you can start applying to your relationship today!

“I can’t remember a time when I laid into someone and then the next day felt good about it.” - Joe Staszak

In This Episode:

- When have you reflected on losing your cool with someone and not regretted it? 

- Joe doesn’t fight.. unless he’s right

- What would you do differently if you could start your marriage over?

- How disarming something is validation

- Understanding IMAGO dialogue. 

- Why simpler is better

- Is it a gender thing? 

- ABD… Always Be Dating

- Is it my job to make you happy? 

- Your chances of staying married increase if you wait till you’re 28.

Connect with Katie Young:

- Psychology Today

- Website

Connect with Joe Staszak:

- Twitter

- LinkedIn