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  • New Ørsted US Head, Mingyang Blade Collapse, Holiday Party Etiquette
    2024/12/24
    In this episode, we explore Meta's shift to natural gas for AI data centers, analyze a major Mingyang offshore turbine blade failure, and discuss Shell's head of renewables moving to Ørsted'. Fill out our Uptime listener survey and enter to win an Uptime mug! Experience Active Training Team's Thrive USA event in Houston January 24th! Email florence@activetrainingteam.co.uk to register! Register for Wind Energy O&M Australia! https://www.windaustralia.com Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.com Allen Hall: If you want to know why turbine blades are disappearing from social media and why Shell's Renewables Chief is jumping to worsted and why META is betting big on natural gas, stick around. Plus, we've got a special announcement, a chance to win an exclusive Uptime Podcast mug that even I don't have yet. You're listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast brought to you by BuildTurbines. com. Learn, train, and be a part of the clean energy revolution. Visit BuildTurbines. com today. Now here's your hosts, Allen Hall, Joel Saxum, Phil Totaro, and Rosemary Barnes. Allen Hall: We've got something new for uptime listeners. We're running a quick listener survey to learn more about what you love about the show and how we can make it even better. And there is an exciting part to this. Everyone who completes and leaves an email address will be entered to win an exclusive Uptime podcast mug. Now, I do not have one of these podcast mugs, so whoever wins this, hopefully I get a second hand one or something. Somebody can throw me a mug. But the survey will take about five minutes of your time, and your feedback is really needed to help shape the future episodes of the show. And whether you're a long time listener or have just joined us recently, we'd We want to hear from you. So I need you to go to uptimewindenergy. com or just check the show notes to participate in the survey. So we'd appreciate if you would do that. And we have a couple other things happening. One of which is Wind Energy O& M Australia film where everybody's going to be on February 11th and 12th in Melbourne. And we have a number of sponsors that we can announce this week. Joel Saxum: So sponsorships and the people joining us at the show will be from Tilt Renewables, Worley, Aerones and RigCom. We've got a bunch of other people signed up too. To date, we've got quite a few operators, some ISPs, some cool technology companies, and other people's that are going to be in attendance along with some speakers. And we're going to start releasing. Some agenda points and some of the speakers and panelists and roundtables. So the goal of, one of the goals of the conference is to drive engagement with the crowd because we want everybody to leave there with insights that they can take back and actually do something to their wind farms. We want to help. We want to help make it more profitable. We want to help make operational decisions and drive some success at the field level. So that's the goal of the show. And we hope you'll join us. Allen Hall: Yeah. The conference is going to tackle crucial topics that directly impact operations, leading edge erosion, lightening protection, CMS, insurance, life extension strategy. So this is your chance to connect with industry leaders and gain. Some practical experience and insights that you can implement immediately. So you need to secure your spot by visiting windaustralia.
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    31 分
  • CIP Canadian Wind & Hydro, Riverstone Sells Stake in Pattern
    2024/12/23
    This week on News Flash, Grenergy is selling 23 percent of its Oasis de Atacama project for up to $962M, a consortium led by APG Asset Management NV and Australian Retirement Trust will acquire Riverstone Holdings LLC equity stake in Pattern Energy, Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners has acquired a majority stake in Toqlukuti’k Wind and Hydrogen. Register for Wind Energy O&M Australia! https://www.windaustralia.com Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.com Allen Hall: Alright, first up, Grenergy is selling 23 percent of its Oasis del Atacama project. To CONT Global A KKR company for up to $962 million. The sale includes three of the seven phases of what would be the world's largest energy storage facility, compromising 451 megawatts of solar and two and a half gigawatt hours of storage capacity. The three phases are already under construction and will generate more than 1.3 terawatt hours of energy annually. Now, Phil, why is Grinergy removing itself from some of these projects? Is it cash constriction? Philip Totaro: This one's kind of fascinating because this isn't just a simple asset rotation. I think this is more that they have to be able to dump some of their pipeline in order to have some cash on hand to cover operations of existing assets as well as eventually reinvest in their pipeline. But this, normally when you do an asset rotation, you either sell off a small percentage minority stake in your asset portfolio, or you take, some of your projects and sell them off. This is a fairly large deal for a good chunk of capacity that, Contour Global is is going to have as part of their portfolio now, bolstering what KKR's doing with their backing as well. KKR wants Contour Global to start expanding more and it's put them On the hunt for, asset acquisitions like this. So, it's a good fit, but it's an interesting move from Greenergy at this point to really start getting some more cash in the door. Joel Saxum: Aside from the sale here, we're talking, M& A here in Newsflash. I want to focus on this Grenergy's asset rotation target. So they're looking at, they have a target for 2026 and ensures funding for a 2. 6 billion euro strategic plan. That strategic plan is to become a world leader in energy storage, which, I mean, if you've been following anything that we talk about on the podcast, in the last few years, energy storage has become a very important part Allen Hall: A consortium led by APG Asset Management NV and Australian Retirement Trust will acquire Riverstone Holdings LLC equity stake in Pattern Energy. Now, Pattern Energy is currently developing over 25 gigawatts of renewable energy and transmission projects for nearly 10, 000 megawatts across North America, either operating or under construction. Phil, Pattern Energy is a privately held company up to this point, but they are seeking a little bit of money to help with these projects that they have going on, Sunzea being one of them. Philip Totaro: Yeah, absolutely. And the fact that Riverstone Holdings is selling out their stake. They were one of the founding partners along with management for Pattern. It's a big signal for Pattern to be able to take a next step in terms of their growth plan. But also a big deal where, these two pension companies are investment and an investment fund is coming in alongside the Canadian pension plan investment board that also owns a stake along with the pattern managemen...
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  • Romotioncam: Inspections in Motion
    2024/12/19
    The spotlight today is on Romotioncam, a company with an inspection method that works while blades are in motion. René Harendt, CTO at Romotioncam, and Michael Stamm, a researcher from the Bundesanstalt für Materialforschung und -prüfung in Germany, discuss this groundbreaking technology. Learn about innovations at the company, from a new 840 mm focal length camera to thermal imaging data, that will make inspections more helpful for operators. Check out Michael's research at BAM! https://zenodo.org/records/14170341, https://www.bam.de/Content/EN/Projects/KI-Visir/KI-Visir.html Register for Wind Energy O&M Australia! https://www.windaustralia.com Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.com Welcome to Uptime Spotlight, shining light on wind energy's brightest innovators. This is the progress powering tomorrow. Allen Hall: Welcome to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast Spotlight. I'm your host, Allen Hall, along with my co host, Joel Saxum. Today we have two experts pioneering innovative wind turbine inspection methods. René Harent is the CTO of Romotioncam whose patented technology enables high res photography of operating wind turbines. And Michael Stamm from Germany's Federal Institute for Materials Research and Testing, who specializes in thermographic inspection methods for wind turbines. Together, they're combining visual and infrared imaging to revolutionize how we detect early stage blade issues. Rene and Michael, welcome to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast Spotlight. Thank you. We have seen Romotioncam a number of times, and the technology is really good, Rene. I like it because the turbine continues to operate. As you take high quality images, the technology has evolved quite a bit from the last time I have seen it. Do you want to explain where you're at with Romotioncam today? So René Harendt: at the moment, we actually build up a fleet to scale up and to provide it to a bigger market. And yeah, I actually have a new prototype with A bigger focal length. So the actual system has a 500 millimeter focal length. The new system has an 840 millimeter, millimeter focal length. So that means that we can, even on higher turbines and bigger blades, because this is related to our distance to the turbines, we can provide GSDs like 0. 06 centimeter per pixel. So something up to 0. pixel. Allen Hall: So in that kind of imaging resolution, you can detect all kinds of blade abnormalities. René Harendt: Yes, even little hair cracks and stuff like this. Joel Saxum: Yeah, because you're approaching what a drone can do, right? That's, even a couple of years ago, two millimeters per pixel, three millimeters per pixel is normal. But now that one millimeter per pixel, a lot of times you'll see that in an RFP, right? When someone puts out, Hey, we're, we want inspections and they put it out to the market. One millimeter per pixel will be the standard, but you guys are offering this without actually having to stop the turbine. So your value add goes through the roof because you're keeping that production going. René Harendt: That's true. And if you think about it with that, sometimes we add a distance of 160 meters, something like this and provide that kind of GSD. Yeah, this. Sometimes there are. That's amazing, yeah. Allen Hall: So maybe, René, for those uninitiated, who are not familiar with Romotioncam, what are the fundamentals here? How does this system work?
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    24 分
  • Vestas Turbine Sway Reduction, Concrete Tower Pre-Tensioning
    2024/12/18
    On Power-Up today, a pre-tensioning mechanism for concrete towers, Vestas' idea for reducing sway in towers, and the patent behind the Smooth Criminal performances. Register for Wind Energy O&M Australia! https://www.windaustralia.com Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.com Welcome to Power Up, the Uptime podcast focused on the new, hot off the press technology that can change the world. Follow along with me, Allen Hall, and IntelStor's Phil Totaro, as we discuss the weird, the wild, and the game changing ideas that will charge your energy future. Allen Hall: Alright, our first idea comes from the brain of Max Boegl Wind AG, and it is a really unique patent. When you deal with concrete towers, like you see on Nordex turbines, some Acciona turbines, where they stack the concrete cylinders on one another. Have you ever asked yourself, how do those keep from tipping over and everything landing on the ground? Well, there's a series of tension cables inside of there that keeps those things stacked up properly and provides pressure the whole time. That is a really tricky system. And this patent idea, which is a pretension element, It creates these, this mechanism to provide tension and simply on these concrete towers so they don't fall over and don't come apart like kids blocks. And Phil, this one I think is being used, right? I would assume a this technique, because it's really unique and simple and effective, has to be out in service already. Philip Totaro: Yeah, and we believe it's being used on some of their hybrid concrete and steel tube towers. So just for everybody's benefit too, this is kind of a pretensioned tower anchor concept where you know, the, the benefit of that is, is if you, if you want to be able to control the amount of, of load and deflection pre tensioning can kind of help facilitate that versus post tensioning something where once you've already poured concrete and it's hardened, there's only so much kind of post tensioning you can do without overstressing either the tendons or the concrete itself, which, which could weaken it. So pre tensioning this allows you to You know, have the, the correct amount of tension in the tendons and, and the bolt the anchor bolts. And then when you're laying in your concrete it's, it's going to help facilitate the, the strength and reliability of that connection. Now, what's also kind of fascinating about this is that we haven't, we've seen, kind of pre tensioning and post tensioning used in different areas of, of the turbine before where some of the companies, Vestas, I think, tried a a post tensioned tower with die cables and things like that. So, there, there have been companies that have tried different arrangements and techniques before but it was never really widely adopted, but Max Bogle, obviously has the, the pedigree in, in wind energy to have this more widely adopted and the hybrid towers that they've been deploying. I believe number more than like three or four hundred at this point that they've got deployed mostly throughout Europe, I believe. So, this is fantastic technology and, and again, great to see that somebody's, capturing IP on a technology that they're actually rolling out commercially and, and, getting the commercial benefit out of leveraging. Joel Saxum: I think an important note here, pre tensioning. So just to give example if you're not familiar with concrete pre tensioning or post tensioni...
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    11 分
  • GE Investor Call Debrief
    2024/12/17
    This week we discuss the recent GE Vernova investor call, discussing the company's current situation, future plans, and how the US market will react. We also cover an article by TRESIOS from PES Wind Magazine about their offshore construction business. Join us at The Wind Energy O&M Australia Conference - https://www.windaustralia.com Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.com Allen Hall: In an extraordinary display of memory and pattern recognition, a man who doesn't speak Spanish has dominated the Spanish World Scrabble Championships. Nigel Richards, a New Zealander living in Malaysia, defeated 145 competitors and won 22 consecutive matches to claim the title in Grenada, Spain. Known as the quote, Tiger Woods of Scrabble, Richards has mastered the game across multiple languages despite not speaking them. He has a unique ability to memorize dictionaries without understanding anything what the words mean, and has led him to winning nearly 200 tournaments, including French in 2015 and 2018. Now, that is crazy, guys. Did you ever meet somebody with that kind of photographic memory, and you're like, that is a very odd person? If you have done it, if you've won championships in Spanish and French, and I assume English, wow, that is a unique person. Joel Saxum: Is there money to be won playing Scrabble? Allen Hall: Evidently there is because he's won so many championships. It's the, from all the information I could find online he, this guy is super human in how he does this. According to some of his friends, he can look at a page of words and remember all those words. It's like a photographic memory, even though he couldn't carry a conversation in French or Spanish at all, he can't carry one. It's just understanding how words go together. Phil Totaro: It's technically a I forget specifically what it's called, but it's actually technically a form of autism that allows you to do that. allows a person to do that. It's still an astonishing talent. So Joel Saxum: what I would say to as a segue into the show today is some people have an optimized electrical grid in their brain and it works better. You're listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast brought to you by BuildTurbines. com. Learn, train, and be a part of the clean energy revolution. Visit BuildTurbines. com today. Allen Hall: In the latest edition of PES Wind Magazine, which you can download at PESWind. com, a good article from Tresios, and I did not know that business very well until I read the article. It's a big subsea construction and marine services company. And they've actually reorganized themselves because there's so much offshore wind work that they're, they have divided into basically two sections to do that, subseas construction and marine services. And they have a third division because there's so much work in offshore wind. They have a sort of a human resources division. It's a company, workforce company called Mr. James. You can go to the Mr. James website. It's actually quite good. It's one of the better human resource workforce websites that I've ever seen, honestly. It's pretty cool. So when you're looking for people to work at sea, Mr. James is not a bad place to go look for those people. But Joel the interesting thing about this is that there's so much activity around wind. And you just don't see all this work that's happening, but it's major construction work.
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  • BP JERA Offshore, Ørsted Cathay Insurance Deal
    2024/12/16
    On News Flash this week we cover BP and JERA joining forces to create a offshore wind partnership called JERA Nex. Also Ørsted has signed an agreement with Cathay Life Insurance to sell a 50% stake in the Changhua 4 offshore wind farm. And Solaria has announced plans to reach 14. 3 gigawatts of install capacity by 2028. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.comJoin us at The Wind Energy O&M Australia Conference - https://www.windaustralia.com Welcome to Uptime News Flash. Industry news lightning fast. Your hosts, Alan Hall, Joel Saxom, and Phil Totaro discuss the latest deals, mergers, and alliances that will shape the future of wind power. News Flash is brought to you by IntelStor. For market intelligence that generates revenue, visit www. intelstor. com. Allen Hall: First up this week, Phil, BP and JERA are joining forces to create a major offshore wind partnership called JERA Next. BP and this equally owned joint venture will have a total of 13 gigawatts potential net generating capacity combining the operating assets and the development projects all together. The partners have committed up to 5. 8 billion in capital funding through 2030. All right, BP is trying to slowly back away from some renewable energy projects, but now they've joined forces with JIRA. I want to understand what this dynamic is. Philip Totaro: Well, it's fascinating because with the resignation as well of the, BP offshore wind executive, their executive director It's almost like this is the full effect of the oil and gas pivot coming to fruition. It's kind of, it sounds to me, the way I read this is the resignation of, we're not really going to do offshore wind except through this venture with JERA from now on where they basically do all the work and we'll take a percentage. But it's, it just feels like BP's got bigger issues because even their oil and gas business isn't the healthiest at the moment. So, they're pivoting and focusing on that whilst providing JIRA the opportunity to continue the growth that they've been on. Joel Saxum: BP is confusing me here. I feel like their operations strategy and marketing and PR departments need to go and sit in a room together to figure out what they're actually doing. They're in the midst of selling all their onshore assets in the U. S. We know that. They've, sold stakes in certain offshore projects in the U. S. They've said they're not going to do wind. They said they were going to do wind. So it'd be interesting to watch this one. And I think Phil, the, what you're talking about is mirroring some of what others are doing, right? Like we know Shell now, Shell's out. They're like, we're not doing offshore wind anymore. And we've seen Econor take a stake in Orsted to be able to provide capital, provide support, but kind of stand back and let the other people do it and just be a part of it. And that's what it looks like BP is doing here more now. So maybe that just aligns with their strategy a bit better. For the long haul. So maybe we'll see some more people doing this, just providing capital, being a part of it, but. Allen Hall: Orsted has signed an agreement with Cathay Life Insurance, Taiwan's leading insurance company, to sell a 50 percent stake in the 583 megawatt grater Changhua 4 offshore wind farm. The 1. 6 billion transaction includes both ownership and funding commitments, with payments scheduled for 2024 and 2025. Phil,
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  • SkySpecs’ Solution to the Technician Shortage
    2024/12/12
    This week's spotlight explores SkySpecs' solution to the wind industry's repair vendor management crisis with executives Dan Partin and Noah Fabes. The discussion covers how SkySpecs helps wind farm operators handle vendor shortages and quality control through their comprehensive vendor management services, which includes vetting contractors, overseeing repairs, and streamlining project management. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.comJoin us at The Wind Energy O&M Australia Conference - https://www.windaustralia.comSkyspecs - https://skyspecs.com Welcome to Uptime Spotlight, shining light on wind energy's brightest innovators. This is the progress powering tomorrow. Allen Hall: Welcome to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast. I'm your host, Allen Hall, along with my co host, Joel Saxum. We're shining a spotlight on a critical issue that's causing headaches for wind farm operators across the globe, repair vendor management. So you imagine this scenario, your wind farm is running smoothly when suddenly a turbine goes offline. You need repairs fast, but your usual vendor is book solid, and we've heard this all year. Days turn into weeks and you're losing money with every passing hour. Unfortunately, this isn't a hypothetical or a recent industry survey revealed a starling statistic. 40% of operators frequently face delays or increased costs due to repair vendor storage. During peak periods, like the summertime of the United States. In today's episode, we're diving deep into this repair vendor crisis, walks for why there aren't enough technicians to meet the man, how this shortage is impacting wind farm operations, and most importantly. What can be done about it? To help us unpack this complex issue, we're joined by two experts from SkySpecs. Our first guest is Dan Parton, VP of Strategic Account Management at SkySpecs. Dan brings extensive experience in the wind industry, Dan Parton Dan Parton focusing on developing and maintaining clean air. Key client relationships, his role is crucial in understanding and addressing the complex challenges faced by wind farm operators, particularly in the area of repair vendor management. And our second guest is Noah Faves, senior product Manager at SkySpecs. Noah's focused on workflow optimization and team leadership plays a key role in developing solutions that streamline and repair vendor management processes. His experience in creating robust solutions for previously unmet customer needs is particularly relevant to our discussion today. Guys, welcome to the program. Thanks for having us. Noah Faves: Thank you. Allen Hall: This is probably problem number one in the United States at the minute. I'm glad you guys are tackling it. Oh my gosh. What a disaster. There's not enough technicians that are all tied up. If there are technicians. Somebody's already locked him up months before, so you don't even have access, forget about calling him because they're not going to even pick up the phone. This has led to a crisis, such that, I think Joel and I have seen this a couple of times this summer, where people, operations are starting to get a little bit desperate. And are bringing in crews that probably aren't qualified to do the work that they're supposed to do. Not to say they're not technically capable. They probably are technically capable. It's all the periphery. Yeah. The PPE, showing up on time. All those things,
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  • Ørsted Offshore Blade Install, Degradable Epoxy Resin Composite
    2024/12/11
    This week on Power-Up, Ørsted's offshore blade install method, SWANCOR's degradable epoxy resin composite, and a precursor to the Google Glass! Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting - https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech - www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.comJoin us at The Wind Energy O&M Australia Conference - https://www.windaustralia.com Allen Hall: Welcome to Power Up, the Uptime Podcast focused on the new, hot off the press technology that can change the world. Follow along with me, Allen Hall, and IntelStor's Phil Totaro, as we discuss the weird, the wild, and the game changing ideas that will charge your energy future. First patent idea is from our friends over at Orsted, and they are looking at a really novel approach of installing wind turn blades vertically rather than the horizontally, which is we do today offshore. So if you've watched offshore blades being installed, you've always seen them placed horizontally and slid towards the hub and everybody tightens them on. Well, that requires a lot of really tall cranes to, to make that happen. But what Orsted's thinking about is grabbing the blade kind of by the bottom and lifting it up vertically. In order to do this, you need a pretty rigid frame to hold this crane to keep it from the blade stabilized. So the crane doesn't move too much. And it's, it's, it's kind of a complicated mechanical problem. However, it does require a much shorter crane and that is the benefit and getting big cranes out at sea right now is really hard. Phil, so having a short crane with a much stronger crane head, I'll call it, Philip Totaro: Does make a lot of sense. It does. And, and so just for context, we talked a couple of weeks ago about, Equinor getting a patent on, technology around optimization of floating platforms. This is another example of a development and independent power producer company, Orsted, getting a patent. IP themselves that they control on something related to, the, the business that they do on a daily basis. And the reason I'm bringing this up is it's, it's a bit unique in the wind energy sector because most of the, Particularly important patents have been held in the past by the OEMs or other supply chain companies. So for, a company like Orsted to, to even contemplate doing this is, is fascinating. This is still in the conceptual phase. There's no rig that they've built yet. They've probably done some smaller scale bench testing, potentially. They've certainly done, plenty of computer modeling on, on this sort of thing. To get it to work. But it is, as Alan mentioned, an interesting concept because, the, the blade's moment of inertia, when it's in the vertical position, it, it has the opportunity to potentially flop around or tip over. But the counter to that is, as Alan mentioned as well, you need a much shorter crane boom. And so, these are some of the technical challenges that, that Orsted is trying to address with introducing this kind of technology. I guess the question maybe for Joel is, is, does this seem practical and, and how attractive is this going to be? Joel Saxum: I think from an operational standpoint, so for real world value of a patent, and this will happen eventually, and I don't think it's limited to offshore. I think it will happen onshore as well. And, and I'm saying this based on the global build out of wind farms, onshore, offshore, floating, you name it, what we're doing and the goals we have in place. All of these, do an easy one.
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    11 分