• 002 | "On Stuckness and Getting Unstuckified" with my friend Gary Klein, LCSW
    2025/06/10

    Episode Notes

    This episode explores the idea that most mental and emotional issues boil down to feeling stuck. They share insights using anecdotes, metaphors, and humor while discussing basic cognitive-behavioral techniques to get 'unstuck.' They highlight the importance of distinguishing between self-worth and self-esteem, recognizing guilt versus shame, and the power of repetition in changing behaviors. The host and guest also entertain with a playful banter about outlandish ideas like selling P tubes and certificates to metaphorically and humorously address the concept of being stuck. In this lighthearted and informative episode, listeners are offered both laughter and practical advice on enhancing their mental health.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction and Podcast Origins

    01:14 Welcome to the Heavy Mental Hour

    01:59 Understanding Stuckness in Therapy

    04:55 The Concept of Certificates

    11:00 Guilt vs. Shame

    17:18 The Mechanics of Change

    29:30 Visualizing the Problem

    30:40 Changing Thoughts and Behaviors

    31:02 Therapeutic Models and Their Evolution

    31:50 Milton Erickson's Innovative Techniques

    36:07 The Pee Pipe Story

    44:27 Self-Worth vs. Self-Esteem

    52:46 The Rarity of Human Life

    55:33 Humor and Therapy

    57:09 Conclusion and Outtakes

    Highlights:

    ;-) Certificates: Abdication of Responsibility, etc.

    ;-) Triangulation: The Wacky Therapy Game!

    3 Rules for Guilt

    Guilt vs. Shame

    Brain Mechanics: Our 3 Brains (thinking, emotional, primitive)

    CBT

    The frozen locomotive

    100K reps

    We are slow, social learners vs. instinctual knowledge (cp to Pepper’s puppies)

    The “Comma, Yet...”

    Drawing: The Box

    Solution Focus vs. watering the weeds

    The Umbrella

    Milton Erickson and the "Pee Pipe" story here.

    Self-worth and self-esteem

    ;-) Certificate of Self-Esteem

    Thought-stopping

    ;-) Product: Pee Pipe Kit

    ;-) Glutton for Punishment Certificate

    Referenced Resources:

    Guest Blogger: Gary Klein on Stress & Stuckness

    Gary Klein, LCSW’s professional profile and contact info

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