Is our traditional education system, with its focus on narrow subject specialisms, adequately preparing students for an increasingly complex and interconnected world? In this episode, Alex sits down with Carl Gombrich, a pioneering figure in interdisciplinary education and the Dean of the groundbreaking London Interdisciplinary School (LIS). Carl, whose own journey spans physics, philosophy, and professional opera, shares his insights on why a multifaceted approach to learning is no longer a luxury but a necessity. They discuss the limitations of siloed disciplines, how to cultivate true expertise for real-world problem-solving, the challenge of shifting established mindsets, and the crucial skills needed to navigate the "Terra Incognita" of our future in an age of AI. Discover why it's time to rethink education from the ground up.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• The modern world's complexity demands interdisciplinary thinking, as single-subject approaches are too rigid.
• True expertise lies in understanding and solving real-world problems, not just mastering isolated academic disciplines.
• Students often need to "unlearn" the narrow focus of secondary education to embrace broader, connected learning at university.
• A significant majority of employers prioritize skills and adaptability over specific undergraduate degree titles.
• The future is an unknown territory ("Terra Incognita") where a diverse range of skills is essential for navigation and success.
• In the age of AI, teaching critical thinking, evidence evaluation, and understanding knowledge sources is paramount.
• A balanced understanding of both scientific/technical principles and human/social sciences is crucial for modern citizens.
• Actively seeking and making connections between different fields of knowledge is a vital habit for lifelong learning.
• Despite clear needs for change, traditional university structures often exhibit significant resistance to fundamental innovation.
• Focusing on external, real-world problems can be a powerful pathway for personal development and student well-being.

BEST MOMENTS

• "Single subjects are almost by definition, anti-complexity... that just doesn't fit anymore. It's simply too rigid."
• "The dominant metaphor of our age is the network... Our education is totally different... it is not a network."
• "Most graduate jobs now require you to be much more of an expert in a thing [rather than just an academic subject]."
• "86 to 90 percent of graduate employers don't care what undergraduate degree you've done."
• "The world we're moving into now is very much a terra incognita... What do you need... there? You're going to need a range of skills."
• "The fundamental thing education has to teach... is where knowledge comes from and why."

ABOUT THE GUESTCarl Gombrich: Carl is the founding Dean of the London Interdisciplinary School (LIS), the UK's first new higher education institution in around 50 years to have degree-awarding powers from inception. With a diverse academic background including degrees in physics and philosophy, and a former career as a professional opera singer, Carl is a passionate advocate for interdisciplinary learning. Before LIS, he established the pioneering Bachelor of Arts and Sciences (BASc) degree at University College London (UCL), the first of its kind in the UK. He is a leading voice on educational innovation and preparing students for the complexities of the 21st century.

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In this episode, Alex speaks with Rachael Wilding, the visionary founder of Edsidera, about transforming the concept of student awards from mere "extrinsic fluff" into meaningful journeys of skill development. They explore how Edsidera's bespoke extracurricular programs are empowering children with vital life skills, fostering entrepreneurship, promoting wellbeing, and instilling a love for learning that goes far beyond the classroom. Rachael also unveils the exciting "Sunshine Squad" initiative, a unique summer program designed to keep children engaged and supported without adding to school or parental burdens. This conversation delves into the practicalities of creating impactful, non-screen-based learning experiences, the importance of community, and why encouraging children to "always give something a try" is fundamental to their growth.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Awards Reimagined: Certificates and badges should be by-products of a rich learning journey focused on skill development, not the sole aim.
• Holistic Development: Edsidera champions a bespoke approach, embedding life skills, entrepreneurship, sustainability, global citizenship, and wellbeing into its awards.
• Offline Engagement in a Digital World: While evidence can be digital, the core learning activities and challenges are designed to be hands-on and screen-free.
• Embracing Failure: Creating a supportive environment where children feel safe to try new things and learn from failure is crucial for building resilience.
• Flexible Learning: Programs must offer flexibility to accommodate busy family lives, fostering genuine engagement rather than adding pressure.
• Impactful Summer Learning: The "Sunshine Squad" demonstrates how summer holidays can be an enriching period of fun, learning, and wellbeing support for children.
• Power of Collaboration: Genuine collaboration between schools, parents, and educational partners can create "sparkle dust" opportunities for children.
• People First, Always: Despite technological advancements like AI, maintaining a human-centric, people-first approach in education remains paramount.
• Kindness is Key: Cultivating a culture of kindness and making time for personal connections are simple yet powerful actions for everyone in the educational community.
• The Courage to Try: The most important lesson for children is to develop the courage to "always give something a try" and explore new possibilities.

BEST MOMENTS

• "The journey and the opportunity for children to develop skills...is far more the rich reward than a certificate at the end."
• "Although we are an EdTech digital company, our challenges, our tasks, none of them are screen-based."
• "It's about really encouraging children to try new things, to have a go, to know and embrace failure."
• "It is basically having a summer camp, a summer buddy in your back pocket for six weeks." (On the Sunshine Squad)
• "I think collaboration is the key...when it's genuine...you really can get that sparkle dust of an opportunity."
• "We are a people company and I think we always will be."
• "Kindness is absolutely free. It is the easiest quality to have."
• "Always give something a try. Don't be afraid not to have a try."

ABOUT THE GUEST

Rachael Wilding is the founder of Edsidera, an innovative organisation creating bespoke extracurricular awards and programs. With an extensive 27-year background in international education in the UAE, Rachael has served as a teacher, school leader, and principal. Passionate about fostering real-world skills, wellbeing, and a love for learning, she now channels her expertise into developing impactful educational experiences that go beyond traditional academics. Rachael is also a school governor and continues to contribute to strategic educational development, championing a "people-first" approach in all her endeavours.

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In this episode, Alex sits down with renowned education expert Tom Sherrington to explore the often-complex world of educational research and its real-world application in schools. Tom, a veteran teacher, leader, and author of the impactful "Teaching Walkthroughs" series, challenges common assumptions about research implementation, questioning whether our efforts are truly impactful or merely surface-level. They delve into the practical realities teachers face when trying to adopt evidence-based practices, address the notion that research stifles creativity, and offer a grounded perspective on the potential (and limitations) of AI in the classroom. Discover why simply "doing" research isn't enough and how to cultivate a truly research-engaged teaching environment.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Beyond the Buzzwords: It's crucial to move beyond simply knowing the names of research and understand the "why" behind effective strategies.
• Long-Term Commitment: True implementation of research requires a sustained, deep engagement over time, not quick fixes or performative actions.
• Actionable Insights: Research needs to be translated into practical steps that teachers can realistically implement in their daily classroom practice.
• Creativity Thrives with Understanding: A strong grasp of learning principles and effective techniques actually enhances creative teaching, rather than hindering it.
• AI as a Tool, Not a Replacement: While AI holds potential, it's unlikely to replace the essential human elements of teaching and should be viewed as a supportive tool.
• Focus on Foundational Principles: Timeless research, like Rosenshine's Principles, continues to offer valuable insights into effective teaching practices.
• Collective Engagement: Schools see greater progress when research engagement is a shared endeavour, fostering discussion and collaborative implementation.
• Understanding Encoding: Effective retrieval practice hinges on successful initial encoding of information; simply testing what wasn't learned isn't effective.
• Teacher Well-being Matters: Creating a positive and engaging teaching experience for educators is crucial for motivation and student success.
• Manage Behaviour Methodically: Personalizing negative behaviour can be emotionally draining; a consistent and practical approach is more effective.

BEST MOMENTS

• "Are we truly listening to the research that's meant to guide our practice, or are we sometimes just paying it lip service?"
• "Where you find there's a kind of real kind of deep engagement with research, it's a kind of long, deep, slow commitment over time."
• "No, I just don't recognise that at all. I think that's really weird." (Regarding research killing creativity)
• "You have to translate that into things that teachers actually do differently in the classroom."
• "The way people learned in the 70s is the same as it is now." (Regarding the timelessness of some research)
• "It's not like you can get away with not seeing the other things. But it's what your focus is for the improvement journey."
• "Progress... basically it means moving through the curriculum and accumulating knowledge in a deeper, more connected way."

ABOUT THE GUEST

Tom Sherrington: Tom is a highly respected education consultant, speaker, and author based in London, UK. With decades of experience as a teacher and school leader, he is passionate about evidence-informed teaching and learning. He is the co-author of the influential "Teaching Walkthroughs" series, providing practical strategies for classroom improvement. Tom works with schools globally, supporting them in developing effective professional learning and embedding research-based practices to enhance student outcomes.

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