In this episode, Fran Spielman interviews Jordan Abudayyeh, the outgoing Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications and Strategic Media for Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker. They discuss Abadaya's experiences over seven years working with the governor, the challenges and stress of high-pressure political roles, and her future plans. They also delve into Governor Pritzker's leadership style, his ambitions, and the dynamics between state and city leadership.

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Portraying himself as a "peacemaker" between an embattled mayor and an emboldened City Council, newly-confirmed Zoning Committee Chair Walter Burnett (27th) said there is nothing to be gained by further "antagonizing and fighting" Johnson. Not after "every vote has been tight" during Johnson's first 17 months in office.

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Sun-Times City Hall reporter Fran Spielman speaks with Anthony Driver Jr., President of the Community Commission on Public Safety and Police Accountability (CCPSA) and Executive Director of SEIU State Council. He reflects on the challenges facing the Chicago Police Department under Superintendent Larry Snelling, emphasizing the need for improvements in response times, workforce allocation, and handling traffic stops. The conversation also touches on internal investigations at the Civilian Office of Police Accountability, the impact of public criticism on police personnel, and the evolving relationship between Chicago's city council and Mayor Brandon Johnson.

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