This week, a simple disagreement about our kids not listening spiraled into something way bigger — because Olyvia had been bottling up a week’s worth of little frustrations. We unpack how unspoken stuff builds up, how misplaced emotion can take over, and how Aaron’s past sports meltdowns might’ve prepared him for marriage (kinda). It’s honest, it’s funny, and maybe a little too relatable.

Some things come up after the wedding — like the way Olyvia has the palate of a 10 year old, or how Aaron “hops” in his sleep.” In this episode, we’re talking about the quirky habits, weird phrases, and “how did I not know this before?!” moments that pop up in marriage. It’s the stuff no one warned us about in premarital counseling — and we’re glad they didn’t. It’s funnier that way…

Being friendly doesn’t mean being friends with ALL the people. In this episode, we talk about why it’s okay (and sometimes healthy) not to be close with everyone — while still showing kindness and love. Aaron flips the script this time with a story about Olyvia's questionable word choice, and we unpack what it means to set boundaries without guilt.

We’ve all heard it: “Don’t let the sun go down on your anger.” But does that mean every argument has to be resolved before bedtime—or else? In this episode, we unpack what that verse actually means, how it’s been misused in marriage advice, and share some real talk about late-night fights, and forced apologies. Plus, we discover Aaron's "new" favorite song, and why you'll definitely have trouble finding it on any streaming platform.

In our very first episode, we’re diving into why this podcast exists — and it all started because Aaron kept using words wrong. But it goes deeper. We talk about what we thought marriage meant when we first got started, how miscommunication has shaped our relationship (and nearly broke it), and why learning to laugh has saved us more than once. Welcome to That’s Not What That Means!

Welcome to That’s Not What That Means — the podcast where miscommunication meets marriage, Bible study, and real life. We’re Olyvia and Aaron, married 20 years, parents of three girls, and best friends who argue, laugh, and misunderstand each other on the regular.

This trailer gives you a taste of what to expect: stories from our life, Bible verses people quote wrong (yes, even us), and why Aaron thought “Aristocrats” was a family’s last name. We’ll talk faith, marriage, and all the funny, awkward, and meaningful ways we get things wrong — and what we’re learning in the middle of it all.

Subscribe now and get ready to rethink what you thought you knew. Because… that’s not what that means.