We have a discussion with Renae Hesselink, Vice President of Sustainability of Nichols. We discuss how she got started with Sustainability, Her solar array on her home, and how it works in Michigan.  We also discuss how she coordinates guests for two sustainable radio shows with Shelly Irwin, Teaching Sustainable Measurements at Grand Valley University, and much, much more. 

We have a conversation with Andy Gale from Bay Area Recycling for Community.  He and his organization strive to fill the gaps that general curbside recycling cannot help.   He talks about all things recycling they do plus. BARC recycles mattresses, houses, electronics, and much more. 

Andy is a very passionate and successful leader in Michigan's recycling field and is one of my heroes.  

Check out https://mybarc.org/ for more information 

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In this episode, we discuss sustainability expert  Joe Sikma and his story of how and why he works in the sustainability field. Joe explains the connection between outdoor conservation and sustainability. He explains what drives him every day. What is the mission of the Outdoor Discovery Network/center, and how its fit with sustainability? 

He has a pretty inspiring story. Below are the links to the books Joe talks about. 

All We Can Save: Truth, Courage, and Solutions for the Climate Crisis

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53231994

Donut Economics: seven ways to think like a 21st-century economist

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29214420-doughnut-economics

Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53328332-less-is-more