In today’s episode, we dive deep into the world of privacy red teams—where the goal isn’t just to protect data, but to break it first. Join us as we explore how this adversarial approach helps businesses identify and fix vulnerabilities before they become threats.

Your host Jacob Høedt Larsen speaks to red team expert, Rebecca Balebako.

Rebecca is a Privacy Engineer, who has worked with RAND corporation and Google. She now runs her own business, Balebako Privacy Engineer in Switzerland.

Find her on: https://www.privacyengineer.ch/

In this episode we talk about he e-book on adversarial privacy testing. Get your free copy here: https://www.privacyengineer.ch/blog/

We also talk about:

1. Why he chose data protection as a career
2. Why it is important
3. What he is interested about right new and
4. What he is most worried about when it comes to the future of data protection

Your host: Jacob Høedt Larsen, follow me on Linkedin for more news and views on compliance and privacy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobhoedtlarsen/

Sustainable Compliance is brought to you by Wired Relations - read more about it here: https://www.wiredrelations.com

Wired Relations is a GRC solution - tailored for privacy and information security.

We help organisations turn fragile privacy and information security into sustainable GRC programmes.

We focus on four things:

• Ease-of-use: You don’t need consultants to implement Wired Relations and you don’t need training to use it.
• Collaboration: Privacy and infosec is a team sport. We make it easy to collaborate.
• Overview: Privacy and infosec is complicated enough as it is. Wired Relations makes it easier to get an overview - not harder.
• Organising for GRC: The trick is to organise your processes and workflows so that you can sustain your programme.

"Hang on, let's look at what their day to day job is, what their business processes are, and optimize those processes so they become inherently compliant," Jonathan Craven says about his perspective on creating great data protection and information security.

Jonathan Craven was previously Global Privacy Operations Lead at iRythm Technologies, now a self employed consultant. He came to data protection from a background and career in psychology and we talk about how that has informed his view on how to create a culture of data protection.

We also talk about:

1. Why he chose data protection as a career
2. Why it is important
3. What he is interested about right new and
4. What he is most worried about when it comes to the future of data protection?

Reach out to Jonathan Craven on https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanbcraven/

Your host: Jacob Høedt Larsen, follow me on Linkedin for more news and views on compliance and privacy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobhoedtlarsen/

Sustainable Compliance is brought to you by Wired Relations - read more about it here: https://www.wiredrelations.com

Wired Relations is a GRC solution - tailored for privacy and information security.

We help organisations turn fragile privacy and information security into sustainable GRC programmes.

We focus on four things:

• Ease-of-use: You don’t need consultants to implement Wired Relations and you don’t need training to use it.
• Collaboration: Privacy and infosec is a team sport. We make it easy to collaborate.
• Overview: Privacy and infosec is complicated enough as it is. Wired Relations makes it easier to get an overview - not harder.
• Organising for GRC: The trick is to organise your processes and workflows so that you can sustain your programme.

"So first of all, OG privacy people who were scrappy and had to fight really hard to get any kind of budget and to even get people to understand that this was a necessary component of a business. They're ready for anything," Shoshana Rosenberg says in this podcast.

We discuss:
- The future of AI and whether privacy people are equipped to take that on.
- The importance of privacy in feedback and inclusion data
- ... and how Shoshana ran towards a career in privacy

Shoshana Rosenberg is a chief AI governance and privacy officer at WSP in the US, founder of SafePorter, a Privacy-by-Design engangement feedback and diversity and inclusion tool that won the PICASSO EU Privacy Award in 2023. Moreover, she is the programme advisor to Logical AI Governance. Find her on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshanarosenberg/

Your host: Jacob Høedt Larsen, follow me on Linkedin for more news and views on compliance and privacy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobhoedtlarsen/

Sustainable Compliance is brought to you by Wired Relations - read more about it here: https://www.wiredrelations.com

Wired Relations is a GRC solution - tailored for privacy and information security.

We help organisations turn fragile privacy and information security into sustainable GRC programmes.

We focus on four things:

• Ease-of-use: You don’t need consultants to implement Wired Relations and you don’t need training to use it.
• Collaboration: Privacy and infosec is a team sport. We make it easy to collaborate.
• Overview: Privacy and infosec is complicated enough as it is. Wired Relations makes it easier to get an overview - not harder.
• Organising for GRC: The trick is to organise your processes and workflows so that you can sustain your programme.