"We're not teachers—we're sharing real-life experience. That’s why we wanted to start a podcast."
That quote from Nick hit me hard because it perfectly sums up what podcasting does best: it captures real voices, real stories, and builds real connections.

This time, my incredible Jenny and Nick Cliff, who flew in from Bali and became my first-ever in-person clients, to record in our brand new Saigon Podcast Studio. They hadn’t even launched their podcast yet, but we’d already produced two episodes together. So when they reached out while visiting Vietnam, I knew I had to get them in the studio.

We talked tech, business, IT disasters, customer service wins, EOS, and yes… why turning it off and on again still fixes half the world’s problems.

Key Talking Points
* Why Jenny and Nick started their podcast – not to grow a business, but to give back to their industry.
* Their plan to turn podcast interviews into a book using real-world stories.
* Behind the scenes of building a podcast studio – from overheating cameras to SD card nightmares.
* The real value of outsourcing your podcast and why doing it all yourself is often a false economy.
* Charging for experience, not time – and how that applies to podcasting and business consulting.
* The impact of AI and why smart questions will matter more than smart answers.

Chapters and Timestamps
04:00 – Podcast tech talk: SD cards, microphones, and near-disasters
07:30 – The universal IT fix: "Have you turned it off and on again?"
13:00 – Charging for experience, not hours: from $20/hr to $500/hr
16:30 – Why outsourcing your podcast production is worth it
19:45 – How podcasting can become the foundation of a book
23:00 – The fear of hearing your own voice—and why it’s worth pushing through
25:30 – Creating a podcast to give back, not sell
29:00 – Smart questions, AI, and why plumbers are the future
33:00 – Final thoughts: podcasting as a tool for purpose and connection

Send us a text

Email me (niall@sevenmillionbikes.com) or contact me on Seven Million Bikes Podcasts Facebook or Instagram to book your free Podcast Audit!

Thanks to James Mastroianni from The Wrong Side Of Hollywood for the endorsement!

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