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#15: Melissa Pagan (she/her) is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) with a master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy. She specializes in a range of therapeutic approaches, with an expertise in behavioral health, PTSD care, and treating substance use disorders alongside co-occurring mental health conditions.

Having witnessed firsthand the vital role of family support and the need for family work in the therapeutic processes, Melissa has devoted her career to helping families navigate the complexities of addiction recovery. In this episode, we dive into Melissa's personal journey as a supporter to her loved ones. We discuss her approach to teaching kids vulnerability, the importance of setting and maintaining boundaries, and how she takes care of herself so she can show up fully for others.

Visit https://mountainside.com/ to learn more and check out their resources page at https://mountainside.com/resources.

Find Mountainside Treatment on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/mountainsidetreatment/ and Instagram at @mountainside.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#14: This week Liz and Bryce The Third are joined by Rob Baumgartner (he/him), a long-time team member, volunteer, and staff member with The Phoenix. Rob first joined The Phoenix in 2007, when the newly-formed organization had about 160 members. Today, he serves as the Regional Manager for the Mountains & Plains states.

For Rob, his climbing journey and recovery journey are deeply intertwined. In both, people play an essential role — whether it's challenging ourselves to take on what feels unachievable, cultivating trust with ourselves and our partners, or empowering others to choose the right path for them. Rob shares how these two paths are intrinsically linked, emphasizing the power of choice, community, and the importance of supporting others. Tune into the episode to learn more about Rob, as we discuss his recovery journey and more.

Check out Season 1 Episode 12 with Billy & Liz and hear from the perspective of a supporter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/33WPOCQ4jSofuWqELfRWPC?si=P0glXv7MR9euKt3Kmsgqsg.

Check out the limited holiday collection at ThePhoenix.org/shop.

Click here to join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute

Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

Find us on Instagram at @riserecoverlive

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#13: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third reflect on the evolution of their relationships with the holidays and check in on how they're both feeling this season.

For Liz, this holiday season feels different from years past—stirring up both joy and grief, and reminding her that recovery is an ongoing, non-linear journey. While intense feelings and memories have surfaced, she’s learning to hold both the joy and the grief, allowing herself to experience them safely and work through them.

Bryce shares how his relationship with holidays has shifted through his own recovery, and how he's reached a place where he shows up for celebrations how he wants to. Through cultivating a relationship with himself, he's learned how to navigate these big holidays, which in turn strengthened his relationships with his friends and family.

Tune in to hear the conversation between Bryce The Third and Liz. And a reminder from your hosts this holiday season: your feelings are valid, we relate to you, and we are so glad you're here.

Check out Bryce's music on Bandcamp: https://brycethethird.bandcamp.com/music. You can also learn more at https://www.brycethethird.com/music.

Check out the limited holiday collection at ThePhoenix.org/shop.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

Find us on Instagram at @riserecoverlive