Join host Brooke Mitchell for an incredible conversation with Dr. Rosa Espinoza, PhD scientist and author of "The Spirit of the Rainforest: How Indigenous Wisdom and Scientific Curiosity Reconnects Us to the Natural World." Rosa shares her groundbreaking Amazon rainforest research, including her discovery of stingless bees as Earth's oldest pollinators (80 million years old) and their medicinal honey properties used in COVID-19 treatment by indigenous communities. Learn how traditional indigenous knowledge bridges with modern conservation science, from animal self-medication research inspired by ayahuasca experiences to new Peruvian legislation protecting native bee species. Rosa explains why everyone on Earth is connected to the Amazon ecosystem through weather patterns, food systems, and natural medicines, while exploring zoopharmacognosy (animal self-medication), ethnobotany, and the beautiful indigenous concept of "living beautifully" as environmental stewardship. This episode reveals how traditional ecological knowledge from Amazonian communities guides cutting-edge scientific discoveries in biodiversity conservation, pollinator research, and sustainable environmental practices. Perfect for listeners interested in conservation biology, indigenous rights, traditional medicine, Amazon biodiversity, climate science, and innovative approaches to environmental research and cultural preservation.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and Warm Welcome
00:55 Rosa's Unique Upbringing in the Amazon
03:27 Journey to Pursuing Science
06:33 Cultural Shock and Adaptation
10:22 The Spirit of the Rainforest: Book Discussion
14:22 Global Connection to the Amazon
19:27 Indigenous Wisdom and Modern Science
27:26 The Importance of Preserving Indigenous Knowledge
42:24 Cultural Pride and Social Media Influence
43:40 Indigenous Voices in Science
46:17 Introduction to Stingless Bees
48:08 The Medicinal Power of Stingless Bee Honey
54:55 Biodiversity and Conservation Efforts
01:00:21 Writing and Storytelling Process
01:05:21 Reconnecting with Nature and Self
01:18:57 Book Release and Final Thoughts

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Join me, Brooke Mitchell, for an exciting conservation update from Chile's Route of Parks of Patagonia with Rewilding Chile's Wildlife Director Cristian Saucedo. Discover the dramatic helicopter discovery of 10 endangered huemul deer at Cape Froward, southern river otter (huillín) sightings in coastal areas, the first international Darwin's rhea translocation between Argentina and Chile, Andean condor rehabilitation successes, and groundbreaking puma coexistence research. This Inbetweenersode provides exclusive access to conservation breakthroughs across 1,700 miles of protected Patagonian wilderness, showcasing cutting-edge rewilding efforts, endangered species recovery, and sustainable wildlife tourism initiatives. Perfect for nature enthusiasts, adventure travelers, and anyone passionate about wildlife conservation success stories from one of the world's most ambitious conservation projects.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Welcome to Rewildology: Exciting Updates from Patagonia
00:44 Conservation Stories from Patagonia's Route of Parks
01:11 Meet Cristian Saucedo: Wildlife Director for Rewilding Chile
02:48 The Journey of Rewilding Chile
08:54 Breakthrough Discoveries in Cape Forward
28:40 The Importance of Baseline Data for Conservation
34:43 Translocation Success: Moving Darwin's Rhea from Argentina to Chile
37:08 Monitoring and Releasing Darwin's Rhea in Patagonia
38:23 Challenges and Successes in Rhea Conservation
42:29 Andean Condor Rehabilitation and Release Program
50:18 Puma Conservation Efforts in Patagonia
57:56 Wildlife Conservation in Pumalin National Park
01:04:02 Closing Remarks and Future Plans

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In this powerful finale, I reveal the five revolutionary conservation principles that make Chile's Route of Parks a global blueprint for planetary healing. From tracking pumas with scientist Nicolás Lagos in Torres del Paine to discovering endangered huemul deer in a Patagonian snowstorm, this 1,700-mile conservation corridor spanning 17 national parks is transforming wildlife conservation and climate action. Learn why temperate rainforests store three times more carbon than the Amazon, explore groundbreaking puma coexistence research, and discover Darwin's rhea restoration programs across 28 million acres of protected wilderness. I announce Project Patagonia's three pillars: Listen (this podcast), Protect (supporting $20,000 for puma research), and Experience (my exclusive April 2026 Torres del Paine expedition). From ancient Alerce trees to innovative wetland protection, discover how corridor connectivity, indigenous co-management, and ecosystem restoration offer hope for addressing climate change and biodiversity loss worldwide. This conservation revolution proves that landscape-scale thinking, community partnerships, and sustainable tourism can heal damaged ecosystems while supporting local livelihoods. What conservation lesson resonated most with you? Drop me a note in the comments! Thanks for listening!

SERIES TITLE
Where the Wild Calls: A Journey through Patagonia's Route of Parks

EPISODE TITLE
Episode 8: Where Hope Flourishes: The Promise of Patagonia's Route of Parks

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 A Snowy Encounter in Patagonia
01:21 Introduction to the Journey
02:02 Close Encounters with Pumas
03:48 Darwin's Rhea Breeding Program
05:08 The Melting Glaciers
07:05 Interconnected Ecosystems
08:19 Conservation in Working Landscapes
09:05 A Blueprint for Planetary Healing
12:26 The Five Pillars of Conservation
16:21 Project Patagonia: How You Can Help
19:19 Conclusion and Acknowledgements

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