Was Jesus actually in Genesis? Most Christians believe Christ shows up in prophecy or type, but what if He was physically present—over and over again? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore 20 stunning appearances of the pre-incarnate Christ throughout the book of Genesis. From walking in the garden, wrestling Jacob, and dining with Abraham, to commanding Noah and calling Hagar by name, we trace the embodied Son of God moving in real time through redemptive history. Using Christ’s own hermeneutic (Luke 24), we challenge the idea that Jesus is absent until the Gospels—and instead show that Genesis is saturated with the presence of the Son. If you think the Old Testament is silent on Jesus, this episode will blow that assumption wide open.

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Could the people of the Bible really talk with Jesus in the Old Testament? What did the prophets actually see—and who were they speaking to? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive deep into the divine council worldview to show how Old Testament prophets weren't just hearing mysterious voices—they were encountering the pre-incarnate Christ. We explore how figures like Isaiah and Jeremiah stood in the presence of the second person of the Trinity, and how the Word of the Lord who commissioned them is the same Jesus revealed in the New Testament. If you've ever wondered how prophecy really works, or how Jesus shows up in places we’ve missed, this episode will change the way you read your Bible. Join us as we put the fringe back into prophecy.

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Have you ever wondered why Jesus was baptized if He was without sin or why baptism is more than just a symbol? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive into the often overlooked, supernatural dimensions of baptism through a distinctly Reformed lens. We explore how Jesus’ baptism connects to the Old Testament consecration of priests and how believers today are clothed in Christ’s righteousness, equipped as royal priests. We challenge the common view of baptism as merely an act of repentance and discuss the spiritual confidence that comes from understanding our identity in Christ. If you’ve ever questioned the deeper meaning of baptism or your role as a royal priest, this episode will give you fresh insight. Join us as we put the fringe back into baptism!

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Can you hold to Reformed theology while embracing a Divine Council worldview? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn think so. In this episode, we dive into the history of doctrinal development, showing how refining theology doesn’t mean abandoning the core of our faith. We share our own journeys as Reformed Baptist pastors, discussing how rediscovering the supernatural elements of scripture – like Christ’s presence in the Old Testament – can actually deepen a confessional Reformed perspective. Join us as we challenge misconceptions, share insights, and explore why seeing the Bible in full "color" enriches our faith.

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Is Paula White a dangerous teacher? In today’s episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn, tackle the supernatural power of words and the dangers of "word magic" theology, focusing on Paula White. We explore how the true power of the gospel stands against the manipulative practices of the health-and-wealth movement. The Word of God brings real transformation, not spells or emotional hype. As we reclaim the full, supernatural nature of our Reformed faith, we call the church back to trusting the proclaimed Word of Christ.

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Satan and the evil realm were overjoyed to see the death of Christ. But, as 1 Corinthians states, "None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." The cross was the Trojan horse into Hell that led to Christ’s ultimate victory over sin, death, and the wicked supernatural entities that ruled over this world. In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn discuss the importance of the crucifixion and its consequences. As well as how Jesus was not just a substitutionary atonement for us, but also a ransom for sinners from destruction.

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In recent history, we’ve seen a rise in the yearning for supernatural teaching and worship that embraces it. Between the rise of the seeker-sensitive and charismatic movements, and observing trends of evangelical Christians converting to Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. The true gospel is often obscured by these movements and institutions. In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn discuss how the tactics of Satan and the evil realm are used to point people to false gospels and lead them away from the sufficiency of Christ and His gospel.

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The question is not whether these things have power. It is whether or not we’re trusting in the power of Jesus Christ, as described in the Scriptures, or something else. In today’s episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn discuss how many, even in Christian circles, are taught to trust in things that seem “good” but are actually far more damaging to us than we could ever imagine.

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