🎙 Episode 79In this special episode of Real Human Design Stories, I switch seats and become the guest as Jess Tilly interviews me about what’s changing—both in my business and in the podcast. We explore the deeper layers of my Human Design experiment, including how radical self-trust became the foundation for every pivot I’ve made. From editing this episode myself for the first time to rethinking what it means to be seen, this conversation is full of insight, laughter, and clarity in motion.⏱ Timestamps0:00 Introduction to Real Human Design Stories00:27 A Unique Episode: Kathy Becomes the Guest00:42 Meet Jess Tilly: The Interviewer02:29 Introducing Kathy Bochonko03:49 Kathy’s Journey with Human Design11:35 The Evolution of the Podcast17:51 The Pivot: Embracing Change and Creativity28:57 Embracing the Beauty of Possibilities29:22 Understanding Recognition in Human Design30:15 The Dynamics of Projector and Generator Interactions31:27 The Complexity of Aura Mechanics32:59 The Importance of Authentic Self-Expression35:42 Navigating Multiple Interests and Talents38:52 The Power of Radical Self-Trust41:37 Celebrating Individual Style and Authenticity48:00 Upcoming Events and Offerings54:39 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement🔗 Mentioned in This EpisodePrevious episodes mentioned–Ep 67 Pivoting to Your Dream Life with Jess Tilly, 4/6 Sacral Generatorhttps://youtu.be/KIj1WJXcpgM?si=me72xtIsGnqIs3LlMy solo episodesEp 64 Rest, Recognition & the Courage to Slow Downhttps://youtu.be/GbNvVNp3LUg?si=-n2d11zrv_6s586h Ep 68 A Year of Radical Self Trusthttps://youtu.be/ALf_PnHdKB8?si=f4ZkWjXVk1TqwOhi Ep 33 Embracing Authenticity: My Transformational Path as a 6/2 Emotional Projectorhttps://youtu.be/z8OF-AFSJHM?si=GbjNnmq6IOmLcaOq 🌟 Karma Clearing by Design: Free Masterclass 📅 June 11 at 1:11 PM EDT (Replay available for all who register) Sign up here → https://www.corecalling.com/karma-by-design-masterclass💛 Ready to Work Together? Book an Intuitive Human Design reading or explore mentorship: → https://kathybochonko.com/servicesConnect with Jess Tilly:→ https://JessTilly.com🌞 Transit Talk: Real Talk in Real Time Join Jess and me for Human Design insights every 6 days, streamed live in the Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group or catch the recordings here on YouTube or your favorite podcast platforms. Expect real conversations, shared experiences, and plenty of laughs.🪩💃I’m hosting the Shine Your Light Dance Experience at the International Human Design Conference in ColoradoTap Into Your Energy, Awaken Your Joy, and Dance Like You Mean It Grab your ticket here while early bird pricing is still available http://humandesignconference.com/?ref=100 👯‍♀️🌼Join me for 🌟 Embodied JoyGet Out of Your Head & Into Your Joy: A Movement Experience for Radical Self-Trust at the Santa Fe HDHD ConferenceI’ll add my affiliate link in the comments as soon as it’s ready.

In Episode 78 of Real Human Design Stories, I’m joined by the radiant Jahje Ives—a 5/1 Emotional Manifestor with the Left Angle Cross of Education. Jahje is a Human Design guide, transformational coach, and intuitive artist whose work channels beauty, emotion, and spirit through both language and paint.

We explore the cycles of creative energy, what it means to honor the urge instead of force the output, and how Human Design helped her transform grief into deep creative purpose. This episode is a love letter to art, trust, and becoming who you really are—when creativity calls.

A conversation on creative cycles, channeled art, and the power of trusting the urge.

Jahje Ives is a 5/1 Emotional Manifestor known for her vibrational, intuitive artwork and her powerful presence as a coach and Human Design guide. Raised in a Sufi community, Jahje brings spiritual depth and emotional truth to everything she touches—from the art studio to the coaching container. Her previous work has been featured by Nordstrom, Crate & Barrel, Vogue, HGTV, and more.

00:00 Into

00:30 Meet Jahje

01:30 Jahje’s Early Life and Spiritual Journey

02:16 Discovering Human Design

03:40 Impact of Human Design Reading

10:17 Personal Loss and Transformation

16:47 Creative Journey and Business Ventures

20:30 Artistic Evolution and Human Design

31:19 Upcoming Projects and Collaborations

32:06 Creative Process and Inspirations

34:10 Personal and Professional Adventures

35:08 Human Design and Personal Growth

38:41 Sufi Upbringing and Spiritual Insights

47:30 Marriage and Personal Relationships

53:32 Client Work and Services

56:29 Understanding the Left Angle Cross of Education

59:40 Conclusion and Contact Information

“When the energy is gone, it’s done.” – Jahje Ives

“I don’t plan the art—I open to it.” – Jahje Ives

“The creative urge isn’t something you can schedule.” – Jahje Ives

“You have the answers. Human Design just gives you the map back to yourself.” – Jahje Ives

Visit Jahje’s website – https://www.jahjeives.com

Follow Jahje on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jahjeives

Explore Jahje’s Art & Portrait Offerings – https://www.jahjeives.com/art

Learn more about the 64 Gates Project – https://www.jahjeives.com/humandesign

Listen to more episodes – https://www.realhumandesign.com/podcast

And don’t forget: you can visit https://www.realhumandesignstories.com and find the episode page for this conversation to view Jahje’s Human Design chart and see some of her beautiful art.

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Don’t miss this heart-opening, art-fueled conversation with Jahje Ives. Whether you’re an artist, a Manifestor, or just someone learning to trust your own cycles—you’ll find something here that stirs your soul.

Peace Out ✌🏻🌼

Guest Introduction:Timestamps:Memorable Quotes:Resources & Ways to Connect:Call to Action:Conclusion:

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Death, Rebirth & the Shamanic Path of Shebala, Queen of Lions

3/5 Sacral Manifesting Generator | Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix

In Episode 77 of Real Human Design Stories, I’m joined by the radiant force that is Shebala, Queen of Lions. Once an MIT MBA and award-winning brand marketer, Shebala now walks a very different path—as a shamanic healer, intuitive guide, and energetic powerhouse. We talk death and rebirth (literally), energetic resets, ancestral connection, and how Human Design helped her integrate it all.

Shebala is a 3/5 Sacral Manifesting Generator living out the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Her work now bridges spiritual initiation and grounded integration, helping others move through their own rebirth cycles. She blends her ancestral roots—Bayaka pygmies of the Central African Republic and the Akan people of Ghana—with Human Design, energy medicine, and intuitive channeling. If you’ve ever wondered what happens when the Phoenix actually rises—this episode is for you.

00:40 – From Santa Fe to Austin: how we met

02:50 – Shebala’s Human Design awakening (and her initial skepticism)

06:30 – Losing everything, finding something deeper

11:15 – The money channel and following her sacral

13:30 – The truth about being a Sleeping Phoenix

18:10 – Death, breathwork, and the name Shebala

22:05 – Living multiple charts and energetic resets

27:00 – Werewolf spine cracking and becoming the butterfly

32:15 – The power, presence, and intimacy in her chart

35:20 – From corporate branding to sacred medicine

42:55 – Family reactions, love, and support on the wild ride

49:25 – Channeling begins: ancestors, poems, and the roar

55:00 – Breaking out of the Human Design dogma

60:55 – What she offers now and how to work with her

Quotes from the Episode“I died. Twice. And I came back with a roar.” – Shebala“Human Design became my path to compassion.” – Shebala“I was trying to guide people with my sacral… but I needed to wait for recognition.” – Shebala“We’re not our chart—we’re who we are in this moment.” – Shebala“There’s power in the presence. That’s the real medicine.” – Shebala5.

Connect with Shebala – https://shebala.com

Follow her on Instagram – @shebalaqueenoflions

Looking to explore your own Human Design?

Download your free chart and learn more at KathyBochonko.com

You can also book a personal Human Design reading with me if you’re ready to go deeper into your design and your decision-making process. My calendar is open now.

Curious about the current energetic weather?

I share Transit Talk recordings approximately every 6 days, exploring how the Human Design transits are affecting us and how you can work with them intentionally.

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Shebala doesn’t just talk about transformation—she lives it. If you’ve ever felt like your old life was dissolving and something deeper was calling you forward, her story will remind you that you’re not alone—and you’re not crazy. This is the work of the Phoenix. Thanks for listening, and don’t miss our next episode where we dive even deeper into what it means to truly live your design.

Peace Out ✌🏻🌼

Episode 76: Harmony in the Undergrowth - Juliana Christine, 3/5 Splenic ProjectorIn this episode, Kathy Bochonko introduces Juliana Christine, a 3/5 Splenic Projector, who shares her transformative journey through psychology and human design. Juliana discusses her unique approach as a relationship mentor and somatic psychotherapist, integrating earth wisdom and womb devotion to help women live authentically. She recounts her initial encounters with human design and how it profoundly changed her life. The conversation touches upon family dynamics, personal challenges, and the healing power of nature. Juliana also elaborates on her programs Sanctuary and Relationship Alchemy, which aim to redefine relationships through the lens of human design and natural wisdom.

Timestamps:

00:30 Introduction to Juliana Christine

02:09 Juliana’s Human Design Journey Begins

05:26 Discovering Projector Bitterness

08:21 Impact of Human Design on Relationships

16:50 Exploring Splenic Authority

24:16 Family Dynamics Influenced by Human Design

32:15 Understanding Aura and Identity Center

33:13 ‘The Heartbreak Hotel’: Dealing with Undefined Centers

34:23 Deep Conversations on Family Dynamics

35:34 Overcoming Struggles with Transformative Insights

38:46 Nature’s Healing Power

42:25 Lessons from Nature for Relationships

48:11 Managing Relationships and Personal Growth

55:46 Changing Family Dynamics

59:12 Karma Clearing and Generational Patterns

01:03:34 Programs and Contact Information

Connect with Juliana Christine:Juliana welcomes engagement through her platforms where she continues to share insights into human design, relationships, and holistic wellness. Visit her website at JulianaChristine.com or follow her on YouTube at Juliana Christine to explore more of her work and upcoming events

.Connect with Kathy:Join the Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group: Sign up for the Karma Clearing by Design Masterclass with Jess Tilly, based on the transformative teachings of Chetan Parkyn, and engage with Kathy and the community for more insights.

Visit Kathy’s Website: Access your free chart, explore in-depth reports, learn about readings, mentorship opportunities, and find out more about your human design at KathyBochonko.comFollow Transit Talks: Deepen your understanding of human design with Transit Talks, available as a podcast and a YouTube playlist.

Episode 75: Integrating Spirituality into Business, Raquel Welcome to Real Human Design Stories! Today, I’m thrilled to bring you an enlightening conversation with Raquel Reyna, a renowned 5/1 Splenic Projector. Raquel has masterfully integrated her deep spiritual knowledge into a thriving business, guiding thousands on their paths to self-discovery.Raquel Reyna, known for her profound influence on the Human Design community, joins us to share her transformative journey from a high-powered corporate career to a dedicated spiritual and Human Design educator. Her unique approach combines deep metaphysical insights with practical business strategies, making her teachings invaluable for anyone looking to blend spirituality with professional success.Main Discussion Points: • 01:00 - Introduction to Raquel Reyna • 03:06 - Raquel’s Spiritual Awakening • 09:53 - Discovering Human Design • 13:49 - Living as a Projector • 20:20 - Business and Human Design • 23:52 - Partnership with Davidian • 28:07 - Emotional Authority and Relationships • 34:04 - Exploring Raquel’s Chart • 39:53 - Navigating Conflict in Relationships • 40:53 - The Role of Compromise and Therapy • 41:52 - Living Environment and Decision Making • 42:34 - Business Dynamics and Sales Strategy • 45:44 - Foundations and Teaching Styles • 47:11 - Spiritual Growth and Relationship Dynamics • 49:20 - Journey into Human Design Certification • 51:47 - Exploring Human Design Concepts • 01:05:43 - The Four Radical Transformations • 01:07:44 - Balancing Excitement and Invitation • 01:11:44 - Connecting and Learning OpportunitiesExplore more about Raquel Reyna’s transformative work and educational offerings by visiting https://raquelanddavidian.comStay Connected: • Follow the podcast on your favorite platforms and leave a review. • Share this episode with someone who appreciates the fusion of spirituality and business. • Watch more episodes on YouTube at @KathyBochonko. • Join the conversation in our Facebook group, Intuitive Human Design. • Download your free personal Human Design chart and explore ways to work with me at KathyBochonko.com.Dive into this compelling episode to discover how Raquel Reyna uses her Human Design knowledge to foster both personal growth and business success, demonstrating the power of living true to one’s design.

Welcome to a special first on Real Human Design Stories—I’m your host, Kathy Bochonko, and I’m thrilled to bring you not just one, but two remarkable guests. In episode 74, Brandy Jordan and Richard Corbett join us to share their unique story as a couple, diving into how their individual paths in Human Design have merged to create a beautiful partnership. Both Brandy and Richard have previously shared their individual journeys with us, and now they’re here together to offer a deeper insight into conscious relating through Human Design.Guest Introduction:Brandy Jordan, a 6/2 Splenic Manifester, and Richard Corbett, a 6/2 Emotional Manifesting Generator, are experts in Human Design and astrology. They have committed to exploring their relationship and personal growth to its fullest, embracing the path of individuated relating, and utilizing their deep understanding of Human Design to fuel their journey together. •⏳ 00:00 - Introduction and Guest Backgrounds •⏳ 02:03 - Deep Dive into Human Design •⏳ 03:45 - Exploring Relationship Dynamics •⏳ 07:09 - Personal Stories and Reflections •⏳ 10:33 - Challenges and Growth in Relationships •⏳ 14:19 - The Evolution of Conscious Relationships •⏳ 27:34 - The Intersection of Mechanics and Mythology •⏳ 35:54 - Building the Foundation of Relationships •⏳ 39:18 - The Role of Human Design in Relationships •⏳ 44:42 - Exploring Electromagnetic Channels •⏳ 47:55 - Practical Tips for Using Human Design in Relationships •⏳ 51:10 - The Journey of Self-Love and Compassion •⏳ 01:00:38 - Final Thoughts and Upcoming ProjectsPrevious Episodes & Resources: •🎧 Revisit Brandy’s personal journey in Episode 71: “Honoring the Body, the Heart, and the Experiment” here •🎧 Explore Richard’s insights in Episode 73: “Human Design Mechanics vs. Astrology Mythology” here •💻 Discover more about their collaborative work at Emerge by DesignStay Connected: •🌟 Follow the podcast on your favorite platforms and rate us. •📢 Share this episode with someone who will find value in exploring deep, conscious relationships. •👥 Join the conversation in our Facebook group, Intuitive Human Design. •📗 Download your free personal Human Design chart, introduction to “Your Human Design Guide to Radical Self-trust”, and explore all the ways you can work with Kathy at KathyBochonko.com.Conclusion:This in-depth discussion with Richard and Brandy provides a wealth of insights into the transformative power of relationships guided by Human Design principles. Don’t forget to revisit their individual stories in previous episodes for more personal insights. *Correction-in the video there is an image that incorrectly labels Brandy as an Emotional MG, she is a Splenic Manifestor with a defined Ego. Sorry for any confusion.

Join Kathy Bochonko for a profound conversation with Richard Corbett, a 6/2 Emotional Manifesting Generator, for Episode 73 of Real Human Design Stories. Richard delves into the intricate layers of Human Design and astrology, sharing how these tools have facilitated his transformative journey of personal growth.

Key Timestamps and Discussions

• 00:00:30 - Introduction to Richard Corbett

• 00:03:42 - Richard’s transformative personal story

• 00:06:50 - How emotional authority revolutionized Richard’s life

• 00:11:12 - Uranus Opposition: The cosmic event that led Richard to astrology

• 00:14:40 - Lunar eclipse in Gate 6 and the support of the universe

• 00:20:18 - Evolution of our emotional landscape • 00:25:35 - The Channel of Judgment (18-58) and the impact of Gate 21

• 00:33:18 - Reflecting on life before Human Design

• 00:40:25 - Mythology of Chiron and stories of coming off the roof

• 00:50:40 - Nine centered relating and its significance

• 00:56:35 - Overview of the Awaken, Unfold, Mastery (AUM) program with Brandy Jordan

• 00:59:35 - The art of creating personal mythology • 01:01:32 - Episode wrap-up and reflectionsNotable Quotes

• Human Design shows the mechanics, while astrology reveals our mythology.

• Off the roof—if I lie, I die. Embracing truth is my path.

• Creativity is the antidote to fear, doubt, and insecurity.

Visit Richard’s Website. https://www.emergebydesign.net

Kathy's Blog about her mythical creature https://kathybochonko.com/blog/creating-a-mythical-creature

Get your Human Design chart and more at KathyBochonko.com

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Don’t miss Episode 74, featuring Richard Corbett and Brandy Jordan. This special interview unveils their journey as partners and co-creators.

Episode Overview:In Episode 72 of Real Human Design Stories, Kathy Bochonko interviews Amanda Horvath, a videographer turned Human Design Analyst who is passionately blending her filmmaking skills with her love for Human Design. This episode delves into Amanda’s intriguing journey from video creation to Human Design and her exciting endeavor of creating a documentary about the early adopters of Human Design. Join us as Amanda shares how she helps entrepreneurs decode their charts, connect to divine guidance, and master the frequency of self from a felt experience.

Timestamps & Key Topics:

• 00:00:30 - Meeting Amanda Horvath

• 00:08:50 - Certification versus pioneering her own path

• 00:15:50 - The role of projectors in business and leveraging AI for verbal processing

• 00:23:30 - Visionary energy of individual circuitry • 00:30:00 - How interviews with early adopters have shaped Amanda’s view of Human Design

• 00:36:10 - Discussing the upcoming mutations and 2027 shifts

• 00:49:32 - Amanda’s documentary project on Human Design’s early adopters

• 00:50:28 - Exploring Amanda’s 4/1 profile and its implications

• 01:06:48 - Connecting with Amanda Horvath

Episodes Mentioned:

• Episode 69 with Barbara Ditlow

• Episode 56 with Leigh Ann Wolf

• Episode 71 with Brandy Jordan

Connect with Amanda Horvath:

• Website: frequencyofself.com

• YouTube: youtube.com/@amandahorvath

Connect with Kathy Bochonko:

• Website: kathybochonko.com

• Email: itsme@kathybochonko.com

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Additional Resources:

• Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust – Energy Centers Edition

• Join the Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group

This episode provides invaluable insights for anyone interested in leveraging their unique design to thrive in business and life, showcasing how a Projector can navigate the business world with grace and effectiveness.