In this powerful episode of the Business and Growth podcast, Kathryn Aragon dives deep into the art of connection through better listening with Christian van Nieuwerburgh and Robert Biswas-Diener, co-authors of the thought-provoking new book Radical Listening: The Art of True Connection.

As our lives become more distracted and communication grows increasingly superficial, listening—true, intentional listening—has become a lost art. In this conversation, Christian and Robert challenge the limitations of “active listening” and introduce a fresh, dynamic way to create presence, intention, and connection in communication. They share the backstory behind their collaboration, which emerged during the COVID-19 pandemic, and how their differing communication styles led to insights that are transforming how leaders, coaches, and everyday individuals engage with others.

Tune in to discover:

• Why active listening often falls short in real-life conversations
• What makes radical listening a more authentic, relationship-building approach
• How intention shapes the way we hear, respond, and connect
• Practical tools you can implement today to be a better listener
• How subtle shifts like interjecting (vs. interrupting), creating spaciousness, and signaling attention can make others feel genuinely seen and heard

With stories, humor, and honest reflection, this episode is both an introduction to the Radical Listening framework and a masterclass in human connection.

Whether you’re a leader, coach, teacher, or just someone who wants to improve your relationships, this episode will inspire and equip you to listen with purpose and empathy.

📘 Grab your copy of Radical Listening on Amazon

🛵 Connect with Christian: Coach on a Motorcycle

😊 Learn more from Robert: IntentionalHappiness.com

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