In part two of this Mariah tale, we get into the nitty gritty of what actually went down between Mariah Carey and Eminem. Did Mariah and Marshall Mathers actually date? Why is Eminem so obsessed with her? Was it all worth it, for us to get a music video of Mariah in drag as Eminem? We’ll say this - beware of all Detroit “touchdowns.” Joining Tess to chat through this long, bizarre and often one-sided feud is the actor Kara Luiz (“The Studio”, “Hacks”) @karaluiz.

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Mariah Carey is, in many ways, a definitive diva. She’s got the pipes, she’s got the style, and the attitude. Behind Mariah’s coy smile and wind blown curls, though, there is a person who has survived extraordinary circumstances. As Mariah Carey was blowing up as one of the most famous and successful recording artists in the world, she was living a double life - one that belies an all-too-familiar power imbalance. Joining Tess to chat through Mariah’s early life, which ultimately inadvertently leads her to get mixed up with the rapper Eminem, is the actor Kara Luiz (“The Studio”, “Hacks”) @karaluiz.

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“Rumors,” is an apropos name for the dream of an album that was born of two and a half couples all sharing a tiny recording studio while actively doing all of the cocaine. Rumors, indeed, have long circulated that while Fleetwood Mac was creating its opus, each member was also actively destroying their lives. What really happened in those powder filled studio walls? Joining Tess to talk through this tale of creativity, soul mates, and betrayal is the comic and podcaster Jackie Zebrowski (Jack that Worm) the Page 7 podcast, and Who’s the Bitch podcast.

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