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Dr. Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.

From 2015 to 2023 she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership is learning lifelong...just like medicine or law.”
• “You don’t develop leaders overnight.”
• “Because the (leadership) industry is so profitable, nobody really wants to break up the existing model.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Professionalizing Leadership by Barbara Kellerman
• Film: Anora

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for Prague - October 15-18, 2025!

About Scott J. Allen

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Richard Barrett is an internationally recognised authority on organisational leadership, and personal, organisational, and societal transformation. He is the President of the Barrett Academy for the Advancement of Human Values®, and the Founder of the Barrett Values Centre®. His lifetime quest for understanding the deeper motivations of human consciousness led him to study organisational culture, psychology, spirituality and the evolution of societal worldviews. This interdisciplinary approach culminated in developing the Seven Levels of Consciousness Model, known internationally as the Barrett Model.

Barrett is an accomplished author, having written 14 books, the most influential of which are “The Values-Driven Organization,” “Evolutionary Coaching,” “The New Leadership Paradigm,” and “A New Psychology of Human Well-Being.”

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Knowing your values means you know what’s in your heart at the deepest level.”
• “You can’t lead other people if you can’t lead yourself.”
• “The purpose for the soul is simply self-expression.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Rebalancing Society by Mintzberg
• Book: What My Soul Told Me by Richard Barrett
• Book: The Nordic Secret by Andersen & Björkman
• Humanity Awareness Initiative
• Barrett Values Centre
• Richard Barrett’s art site

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for Prague - October 15-18, 2025!

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders
• Blog

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection,

♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!
⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.
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Since 2013 Dr. Richard Bolden has been Professor of Leadership and Management and Director of Bristol Leadership and Change Centre at Bristol Business School, University of the West of England (UWE). Prior to this he worked at the Centre for Leadership Studies at the University of Exeter Business School for over a decade and also as an independent consultant, research psychologist and in software development in the UK and France.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership isn’t always about who holds the role—it’s about what’s being mobilized.”
• “Sometimes we solve problems too quickly, before the right people have even had a voice.”
• “Leadership is a lens—it helps us see what’s often hidden.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Blog: Leading Together: An Invitation
• Blog: Monsters, Metaphors and Masks: Leadership Insights From Halloween
• Book: Exploring Leadership: Individual, organizational and societal perspectives
• Article: Why is collective leadership so elusive?
• Article: Putting leadership in its place: Introduction to the special issue
• Podcast: Cautionary Tales | Tim Harford
• Podcast: BBC Sounds - The Great Post Office Trial - Available Episodes
• Conference: islc2025 - University of St Andrews Business School - University of St Andrews

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for Prague - October 15-18, 2025!

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders
• Blog

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!
⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.
➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.
📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.
🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.