Ever dreamt of leaving your “sensible” job to finally back yourself as an artist? Deb Baker did just that — and in this heartfelt, joyful convo, she shares how she made the leap from nursing and pharmacy to full-time artist life. We dive into the mindset shifts, the fears, and the triumphs (like seeing her colourful art hanging in a local café!).

Deb opens up about navigating imposter syndrome, building confidence, and finding the right mentors to guide her along the way. If you’re wondering whether it’s “too late” or if your art is “good enough,” Deb’s story is the warm nudge you’ve been waiting for.

Reminder:

Ros’s VIP mastermind program opens soon — and early bird is now live for Laura’s Ignite artist retreat! Apply for VIP here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/vipwaitlist

Laura's Ignite Art Retreat is now open for early bird bookings: https://laurajaneday.com/retreat/

What We Cover:

• Deb’s leap from pharmacy to full-time art — and what finally pushed her to go for it (03:29)

• The mindset shifts that helped her ditch imposter syndrome and own her artist identity (08:25)

• How coaching, community, and colour helped Deb find her creative voice (11:58)

• The power of showing up online — and how that led to a café art exhibition! (15:58)

• Why trusting the journey (and yourself) changes everything (18:33)

Resources & Mentions:

Deb Baker: https://www.instagram.com/debbakerart/ https://www.debbakerart.com/

Jen Be’s branding course — helped Deb own her vibrant style and biz identity https://jenbebrands.com/

Crossroads Coffee Bar, Ballarat — now showing Deb’s art! https://www.facebook.com/cross.roads.coffee.bar/

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Sponsored by:

Laura Day: https://www.laurajaneday.com https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/

Ros Gervay: https://www.permissiontopaint.co https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Stay Connected

Want more soulful tips on making money from your art?

Ros’s Newsletter — get weekly inspiration + practical biz advice here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected

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Ever dreamed of attending—or running—your own art retreat?

In this episode, Ros interviews Laura as she pulls back the curtain on what it truly takes to bring a creative retreat to life. What began as a long-held dream was reignited during a deeply restorative trip to Hoi An, and the inspiration never left. There was something about the town’s magic, the peaceful energy of the villa, the beautiful people, coupled with Laura’s deep desire to create space for transformation through art that just kept calling her back. Laura shares how that vision unfolded into her first international retreat and what made the experience so powerful.

In this episode you’ll hear:

• What inspired the retreat (and how it came together)
• The biggest fears attendees faced—and how saying YES changed everything
• Real feedback from participants: “Nourishing, joyful, empowering”
• Why creative retreats are more than a getaway—they’re a reset for your soul and your art

Whether you're craving connection, dreaming of leading your own retreat, or just curious about the process, this episode will leave you inspired to follow your creative pull.

ALSO - don't forget there is still time to jump into Ros’ FREE Fuel Your Creativity Art Challenge! You don't want to miss this!

GO TO: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/fyc

Prefer to Watch / Listen:

• Tune in on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@paintrestrepeatpodcast250
• Tune in on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/3XkuZ4KuoUgy3Shu7IpmjN?si=20294c600c3c460e
• Tune in Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/paint-rest-repeat/id1597004305

Episode Sponsors:

• Laura Day https://www.laurajaneday.com | https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
• Ros Gervay https://www.permissiontopaint.co | https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Contact Us:

• Stay updated with more tips and resources for growing your art business by signing up for our newsletters: Laura's Newsletter https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/studio-news | Ros' Newsletter https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected
• Reach out to us via Instagram DM for questions, feedback, or collaboration opportunities.

Let Us Shout You Out:

• Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out live! Here is how! https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

In this episode, we dive into branding and visibility for artists with brand coach Jen Bowers from Jen Be Brands. Jen speaks about what it really means to stand out in the art world — like a flamingo in a flock of seagulls! We explore recognition marketing and why branding is about so much more than colours and logos (although those are fun too!). Jen explains how building a memorable brand starts with knowing your brand personality — something that, for artists, is often deeply personal and closely tied to your identity.

If you missed episode 90, check it out so you can rewrite your money story. And don’t forget to tune in to episode 84, where we covered how to take risks in your art practice and business.

Reminder: Register now for Ros’ FREE Fuel Your Creativity Art Challenge starting on 19th May 2025. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/fyc

Key Topics:

- How to be instantly recognisable and attract the right art buyers [02:57]

- Being your authentic self and uncovering your brand personality [05:10]

- Key steps to creating a stand-out, soulful brand [16:25]

Resources:

- Follow Jen Be Brands on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/jenbebrands/

- ‘Discover Your Brand’s Sparkling Personality’ Survey https://mailchi.mp/pinkpompombyjen/discover-your-brands-sparkling-personality

- ‘Flamazing Brand Kickstarter’ Course https://jenbebrands.com/flamazing-waitlist

Prefer to Watch / Listen:

• Tune in on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@paintrestrepeatpodcast250
• Tune in on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/3XkuZ4KuoUgy3Shu7IpmjN?si=20294c600c3c460e
• Tune in Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/paint-rest-repeat/id1597004305

Episode Sponsors:

• Laura Day https://www.laurajaneday.com | https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
• Ros Gervay https://www.permissiontopaint.co | https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Contact Us:

• Stay updated with more tips and resources for growing your art business by signing up for our newsletters: Laura's Newsletter https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/studio-news | Ros' Newsletter https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected
• Reach out to us via Instagram DM for questions, feedback, or collaboration opportunities.

Let Us Shout You Out:

Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out live! Here is how! https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

Welcome back to another Mindset Mini - our bite-sized episodes designed to help you overcome the most common mindset struggles we see in the artist community.

In this episode, we’re diving into one of the biggest blocks that hold artists back from building successful and sustainable art businesses: your money story.

If you’ve ever felt weird about charging for your work, cringed at money affirmations, or believed deep down that being “good with money” just isn’t your thing - this episode is for you.

Laura and Ros unpack why your relationship with money matters, especially as an artist and creative entrepreneur. If your goal is to turn your passion into profit and use your creative gifts to do good in the world, re-shaping your relationship with money can be a powerful step to take. Then your money can become a tool for impact - not something to feel guilty or ashamed about.

You’ll learn:

• Why awareness is the first step to rewriting your money story
• Affirmations to start shifting your subconscious beliefs
• Online tools and resources they both have used to work at a deeper level
• How to practically build money confidence (support systems that keep you empowered - not overwhelmed)
• The difference between discounting from fear vs. pricing from worth
• Why selling your art is really about serving others with your creativity

Ros and Laura also share how to create a more positive relationship with money, shift your focus to service, and step into the identity of a thriving artist who gets paid well for their talents.

Tune in to hear this inspiring episode where we help you shift your inner beliefs and take empowered action to rewrite your money story as an artist - one confident step at a time.

Resources:

• Waitlist for Laura’s 2026 Art Retreat: https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/retreatwaitlist
• Ros’ free Facebook group for artists: https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity
• Ros’ Audience Attraction Workshop 19th May 2025 - Check out her IG for all the deets! @rosgervayart

Episode Sponsors:

• Laura Day https://www.laurajaneday.com
• Ros Gervay https://www.permissiontopaint.co

Stay Connected:

Want more tips, resources, and support?

Sign up for:

• Laura’s Newsletter: https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/studio-news
• Ros’ Newsletter: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/site/contact

Find us on socials here:

• Laura’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
• Ros’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Reach out to us via Instagram DM for questions, feedback, or collaboration opportunities.

Let Us Shout You Out!

Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out live!

HERE IS HOW:

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Welcome back to Mindset Mini—our bite-sized episodes tackling common mindset struggles artists face. We are diving into the topic of : Fear of Visibility for Introverted Artists.

Have you been struggling to put yourself out there as an artist? You’re not alone. In this episode, Laura and Ros dive into the mindset shifts that can help introverted artists (or anyone hesitant about visibility) build confidence and share their work online in a way that feels authentic.

We explore where the “fear of being seen” comes from and share practical ways to overcome it — starting small, taking gradual steps, and finding a visibility approach that aligns with your unique energy.

If you've ever felt held back by fear and insecurity, this episode will help you reframe your mindset, push past resistance, and embrace visibility in a way that feels right for you. Your art deserves to be seen, and the world needs your unique creative magic!

Tune in to hear actionable tips and encouragement to help you show up, be seen, and grow your art business—your way.

Resources:

• Waitlist for Laura’s 2026 Art Retreat: Sign up here
• Ros’ free Facebook group for artists: Join here
• Ros’ Audience Attraction Workshop 19th May 2025 - Check out her IG for all the deets! @rosgervayart

Episode Sponsors:

• Laura Day https://www.laurajaneday.com | https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
• Ros Gervay https://www.permissiontopaint.co | https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Contact Us:

• Stay updated with more tips and resources for growing your art business by signing up for our newsletters: Laura's Newsletter | Ros' Newsletter
• Reach out to us via Instagram DM for questions, feedback, or collaboration opportunities.

Let Us Shout You Out:

• Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out live! Here is how!

Finding balance as an artist is essential for avoiding burnout and creating a sustainable creative lifestyle. In this episode, we discuss how to shift from overwhelm into flow by prioritising self-care, setting boundaries, and building habits that support both creativity and well-being.

We’ll cover actionable strategies to help you take control of your schedule, manage your energy, and create a life that supports your art without sacrificing your well-being.

If you missed Episode 87, you’ll want to tune in to bust the biggest myth in the art world: the Starving Artist Story. And don’t forget to tune in to Episode 84 for an overview of this Mini Mindset series where we will be helping you overcome a whole range of mindset struggles..

Key Topics:

• Why Balance is Important [00:56]
• How to Create a More Balanced Life [04:37]
• Setting Boundaries to Avoid Burnout [08:27]
• Noticing Overwhelm & Taking Action [13:13]

Resources:

• The Artist’s 5-Week Project Planner – Download here: laurajaneday.com/free
• Laura’s 1:1 Coaching Program – Limited spots available! Apply here: www.laurajaneday.com/workwithme
• Permission to Paint Free Community – Share the journey with other artists! Join here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity

Episode Sponsors

• Laura Day https://www.laurajaneday.com | https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
• Ros Gervay https://www.permissiontopaint.co | https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Contact Us:

• Stay updated with more tips and resources for growing your art business by signing up for our newsletters: Laura's Newsletter | Ros' Newsletter
• Reach out to us via Instagram DM for questions, feedback, or collaboration opportunities.

Let Us Shout You Out:

Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out live! Here is how!

Welcome back to Mindset Mini — our bite-sized episodes tackling common mindset struggles artists face. Today, we’re busting one of the biggest myths in the art world: the Starving Artist Story.

This limiting belief affects how we price our work, view our worth, and run our art businesses. If you’ve ever struggled to charge for your art or questioned whether financial success is even possible for an artist or creative, this episode is for you!

Ros and Laura share powerful questions to help you reflect on your money mindset and shift limiting beliefs that may be holding you back. They also offer actionable tips — like finding mentors and real artists thriving in their businesses as well as using mindset tools to build confidence in your financial success as a creative business owner.

Tune in for this insightful conversation — perfect for any artist ready to break free from the Starving Artist Story. Ros and Laura share practical strategies to shift your mindset, overcome doubt, and build confidence in both your art and business.

Resources:

• Waitlist for Laura’s 2026 Art Retreat: Sign up here
• Ros’ free Facebook group for artists: Join here
• Ros - is also going to have an ART RELEASE in March - stay glued to her Instagram for all the deets! @rosgervayart

Episode Sponsors

• Laura Day https://www.laurajaneday.com | https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
• Ros Gervay https://www.permissiontopaint.co | https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Contact Us:

• Stay updated with more tips and resources for growing your art business by signing up for our newsletters: Laura's Newsletter | Ros' Newsletter
• Reach out to us via Instagram DM for questions, feedback, or collaboration opportunities.

Let Us Shout You Out:

• Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out live! Here is how!

In this episode, we dive into the sneaky ways perfectionism can sabotage your creativity and business growth. Perfectionism often shows up as setting impossibly high standards and never feeling like your work is "good enough." We’ll break down why perfectionism is more than just a habit—it’s a mindset that can hold you back from finishing your best work.

We’ll cover how to recognise perfectionist patterns, shift your mindset, and share practical steps to help you keep creating (even when it feels uncomfortable). You’ll also learn how to embrace imperfection as part of the process, take action, and let go of unrealistic expectations.

If you missed Episode 85, check it out to explore the common block of self-trust, how it relates to artists and why it is important to address as a creative.. And don’t forget to tune in to Episode 84 for an overview of this Mini Mindset series where we will be helping you overcome a whole range of mindset struggles.

Reminder: Laura’s 1:1 coaching spots are open—but only for a limited time! Don’t wait if you’re ready to push past perfectionism and level up your art business.

Key Topics:

• What is Perfectionism? [00:03:50]
• Steps to Navigate Perfectionistic Moments [00:06:45]
• Tool and Strategies to Tame Perfectionism [00:12:55]

Resources:

• Laura’s 1:1 Coaching Program – Apply here
• Ros’ free Facebook group for artists: Join here

Episode Sponsors

• Laura Day https://www.laurajaneday.com | https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
• Ros Gervay https://www.permissiontopaint.co | https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart

Contact Us:

• Stay updated with more tips and resources for growing your art business by signing up for our newsletters: Laura's Newsletter | Ros' Newsletter
• Reach out to us via Instagram DM for questions, feedback, or collaboration opportunities.

Let Us Shout You Out:

Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out live! Here is how!