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Abby, Patrick, and Dan discuss and apply Julia Kristeva’s concept of abjection. It’s an influential and powerful idea in its own right, but it also generates clarifying insights into our present cultural and political moment. To get there, the three first do some necessary ground-clearing on reading Kristeva’s notoriously complex style, the broader status of language in French poststructuralist thought, and the etymology and connotations of “abjection” and the “abject” themselves. As they discuss, abjection does more than describe an object or a state of being – it also describes a set of experiences, a fundamentally embodied suite of affects, and, above all, an ongoing set of processes that simultaneously consolidate and threaten our most taken-for-granted ideas about subjectivity, the body, other people, and political life. Abby, Patrick, and Dan proceed through Kristeva’s many earthy examples, from food waste to vomit to excrement to corpses, and to the ideologies she perceives as relying on logics of abjection and making-abject, from hatred of mothers to antisemitism and beyond. Turning to explicitly contemporary political topics, they draw on the work of key interpreters of Kristeva to explain how the ongoing production of abject populations is vital to both real and figurative operations of boundary maintenance, oppression, and exploitation, and to core processes of state formation and policing of the public sphere. From trans bathroom panics to misogyny to abortion to immigration to Alligator Alcatraz and beyond, the three show how the work of abjection runs through a panoply of reactionary programs; how the continual creation of abjected, “revolting” populations and the conjuring of feelings of revulsion against them works to subvert revolutionary possibilities; and how abject groups have sought to both name and resist their oppression and to reclaim and redeploy its terms.

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Abby and Patrick sit down with writer Hilary Plum to discuss her remarkable new book, State Champ. A novel at which the politics of abortion stand at the center, but far from a didactically “political novel,” State Champ gives the three an opportunity to explore a suite of deeply psychoanalytic themes and topics: from the gap between our first-person experiences of our bodies to the claims and restrictions made by others on our bodily autonomy; from the purposes of protest to our motivations for undertaking them; from discourses about “regret” versus certainty and judgement; from the knowledge we anticipate to come from experiences versus things we know already versus things that others think they better; and from sex to eating disorders to humor to running and more. The three also reflect on writing and reading novels in 2025, genre, audiences, and on what communication and psychic change we hope fiction can achieve.

Hilary Plum, State Champ: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/state-champ-9781639735433/

Hilary’s website: http://www.hilaryplum.com/

Index for Continuance, a podcast about small press publishing, politics, and practice, hosted by Hilary Plum and Zach Peckham: https://www.csupoetrycenter.com/index-for-continuance-podcast

Susan Bordo, “The Body and the Reproduction of Femininity”

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Abby, Patrick, and Dan return to the first case study in Studies On Hysteria (1895). But while previously they examined the case of “Anna O.” as told narrowly by Josef Breuer on his own terms, this time they tell the story of the remarkable woman behind it: Bertha Pappenheim. They begin by addressing how the legend of a “hysterical pregnancy” came to overshadow the “Anna O.” case history, and how that apocryphal tale was the product of squabbles and mythmaking involving Freud, his biographers, his students, and his opponents. Next, they turn to the story of Bertha Pappenheim herself, focusing first on the actual details of her treatment with Breuer as well as her subsequent mental health history. Then, they unpack her incredible achievements beyond her time with Breuer. It’s a wide-ranging, continent-spanning, and ocean-crossing story of activism, authorship, and intellectual influence, tying together political themes of social work, German feminism, Jewish anti-Zionism, and more.

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