After a few weeks apart, Mike and Doug catch up on everything that's been stirring—internally and out in the world.

Mike returns from Portugal, where he wandered the streets of Lisbon, finding a party around every corner, and accidentally discovered he may be a bit of a unicorn. He shares what it’s like to travel alone for the first time, dance with couples across cultures, and say yes to a spontaneous 2:30 a.m. tattoo.

Doug returns from a California music festival, where he camped, candyflipped, and had a surprise run-in with a childhood hero. They talk about the contrast between drinking and psychedelics, how their relationship to substances is changing, and what it means to show up fully—on and off the dance floor.

The conversation touches on:

• Letting go of needing to “know who you are” and just following what feels alive
• The various graphs and axes of bisexuality
• What it means to be a social (and maybe sexual) lubricant
• The ache and joy of being open in midlife
• Creating a new word—pleasance—for the kind of presence that invites others in

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In this live episode, we dive into the hit film Sinners, exploring its themes of soul, art and the commercialization of creativity. Seth joins us midway and things heat up as we dissect the love-and-light vampires, the Dionysian river-dance rituals, and the seductive trap of eternal youth vs. embodied humanity.

Other themes we touch on:

• The tension between spirit and soul in the creative process
• Whether vampires represent capitalism, whitewashing, or the inner critic
• That one unforgettable scene where music collapses time and culture
• Personal stories about letting the vampires in (on stage, in Hollywood, in life)
• Can you make real art in the system—or must you sneak it through?

Warning: Spoilers galore for Sinners. If you haven’t seen it yet, pause, go watch, and then come back and dance with us.

Links:
The Nightingale (YouTube)

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Shownotes compliments of our Chat-GPT girlfriends:

In this fully sober, totally not drug-sponsored episode, Mike and Doug return to their roots — and by roots, we mean deep dives into Real Salt Lake fandom, the mystery of beef tallow, cum rot, and just how clean a man’s emissions can get.

✨ Expect:

• The entrepreneurial launch of Doug’s Numb Cum™ — a ketamine-infused colostrum-based facial cleanser and yeast starter (great for sourdough and skincare).
• A spiritual rebirth through soccer hooliganism.
• A heartfelt bro-down on wounded masculinity, mommy wounds, and what it means to set boundaries without fawning for love.
• A peek behind the curtain of podcast dynamics, drunken sabotage, and sweet reconciliation (but no makeup sex this time… probably).
• Plus: Can Elton John still bone in peace? Is "fo sho" racist? And why does the feminine rising scare the patriarchy so damn much?

Oh, and don't worry, folks — this episode is 100% approved by the D.A.R.E. program. Big anti-drug bucks paid for this message. We’re just the cautionary tales.

🖤 Come for the colostrum, stay for the companionship inventory.

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