This is a conversation with Mike McLean, a black belt out of Torquay, Victoria, Australia. Mike is an artist who focuses mostly on painting on reclaimed materials. He has painted hundreds of thousands of Wagtails that have made it around the world. He's also an art teacher and a poet.

Episode Links:

* Personal Instagram: https://instagram.com/@mikemcleanartist

* Will the Wagtail Instagram: https://instagram.com/@willythewagtail

* World Wide Wag Tails: https://instagram.com/@worldwidewagtails

* Mike's Poetry: https://instagram.com/@mikemcleanpoet

* YouTube: https://youtube.com/@MikeMcleanArtist

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Outline:

00:00 Intro

00:22 Journey to Black Belt

03:28 Training for Longevity

08:29 Reflections on Life and Jiu Jitsu

14:25 Getting Into Jiujitsu

16:53 Balancing BJJ, Family, and Relationships

19:51 Family Road Trip

24:52 Artistic Journey and Career

36:11 Getting Into Art

45:23 Artistic Materials and Economic Choices

50:35 The Wagtail Phenomenon

59:02 An Emotional Painting for Jamie

01:02:40 Immersive Activities

01:04:55 Getting Into Poetry

01:11:32 Living a Life of Happiness

01:15:53 Outro

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