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  • 466: Shredded at 50 Trading Wine for Weights with Alicia Erickson

    466: Shredded at 50 Trading Wine for Weights with Alicia Erickson
    2025/07/22
    What if everything you've been told about aging is wrong - and your best body is actually waiting for you after 50? In this game-changing episode, I sit down with an incredible woman, Alicia Erickson, who shattered every expectation about midlife by quitting alcohol, ditching CrossFit for heavy weights, and getting absolutely shredded at 50. Her transformation started with a painful realization: the nightly wine ritual that helped her cope with stress had become a prison for her body that she couldn't escape. Despite being active her entire life - marathons, triathlons, years of CrossFit - her body was betraying her as she entered midlife. Alicia shares the shocking truth about how increasing her protein intake transformed her hunger, why she had to stop doing cardio to finally see results, and the exact "midlife trifecta" that helped her lose 15 pounds and completely recomp her body. From struggling with 4-5 nights of drinking per week to becoming someone who deadlifts heavy and feels better than she did at 30, and the transformation didn't stop with her! Her husband watched her dedication for a year before joining her journey, dropping 60 pounds and getting off blood pressure medication. Proof that midlife can be your launch pad, not your limitation. Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube Learn More About Alicia Erickson: Instagram ➜ https://www.instagram.com/aliciae Website ➜ http://aliciaericksonapp.com/ Thank you to our show sponsors! TIMELINE: Timeline is offering 20% off your order of Mitopure Gummies (or Capsules)! Go to https://timeline.com/NATALIEJILL Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations! Mastering the Midlife Midsection Guide: https://theflatbellyguide.com/ Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com Connect with me on social media! Instagram: www.Instagram.com/Nataliejllfit Facebook: www.Facebook.com/Nataliejillfit For advertising inquiries: https://www.category3.ca/ Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen. Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease. Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship does not imply endorsement of any product or service by healthcare professionals featured on this podcast.
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    1 時間 3 分
  • 465: Traditional Chinese Medicine's Approach to Menopause (Far Beyond Hormone Replacement) with Dr. Chris Motley

    465: Traditional Chinese Medicine's Approach to Menopause (Far Beyond Hormone Replacement) with Dr. Chris Motley
    2025/07/15
    Are you being told that your menopause symptoms are "just part of aging" when there might actually be hidden “hose kinks” and infections causing your exhaustion, brain fog, and hot flashes? What if your persistent lower back pain, thyroid issues, and nighttime bathroom trips all stem from the same hidden cause? In this episode, we explore a fresh perspective on menopause and women's health with Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) expert, Dr. Christopher Motley. He reveals how TCM can alleviate common menopausal symptoms by addressing hidden bacterial, viral, and fungal infections in your kidneys, liver, and bladder that He also explains why your thyroid medication might not be working, how emotions get trapped in your organs creating physical pain, and why that lower back pain could actually be a kidney infection you don't even know you have. Learn specific herbs and acupuncture protocols he uses to help women rewire their body’s “electrical system” to reclaim their vitality without extreme diets or complicated hormone protocols. Prepare to have what you thought you knew about menopause turned upside down. Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube Learn More About Dr. Chris Motley: Instagram ➜ https://www.instagram.com/doctormotley Website ➜ http://www.doctormotley.com Thank you to our show sponsors! LEELA QUANTUM: Get 10% off your first Leela Quantum order with the code NatalieJill at checkout at https://midlifeconversations.com/leela BIOPTIMIZERS: Get the Enzymes & Probiotics & Gut Support I use daily at https://bioptimizers.com/nataliejill Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations! Mastering the Midlife Midsection Guide: https://theflatbellyguide.com/ Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com Connect with me on social media! Instagram: www.Instagram.com/Nataliejllfit Facebook: www.Facebook.com/Nataliejillfit For advertising inquiries: https://www.category3.ca/ Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen. Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease. Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship does not imply endorsement of any product or service by healthcare professionals featured on this podcast.
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    58 分
  • 464: The Midlife Fat Loss Shortcuts That Actually Work (No Salad Licking Required)

    464: The Midlife Fat Loss Shortcuts That Actually Work (No Salad Licking Required)
    2025/07/11

    What if everything you've been told about fat loss shortcuts is actually keeping you stuck? I'm sharing the unfiltered truth about why motivation, stricter eating, and working out harder actually backfire in midlife - and the foundation you need BEFORE any tactics will work. From my estrogen patch almost falling off on stage to the three-letter framework that changes everything, this episode reveals why most women are building their fat loss on sand instead of solid ground.

    You'll discover the "health detective" approach that saved my own transformation, why being in "deficit" isn't the answer you think it is, and the inflammatory trio that's sabotaging your results (hint: it's not what you expect). Plus, I'm calling out the false assumed truths that keep us playing small and sharing the decision-vision-action framework that actually creates lasting change.

    This isn't about finding another shortcut - it's about building the foundation that makes everything else work.

    And just to be clear, this is the tiny little appetizer version of what I actually teach. For the full buffet of midlife fat loss strategies, check out my full program, Total Body Thrive. That’s where the real transformation happens.

    Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube

    Learn More About Thrive:

    Done with quick fixes? Get the real solution → https://totalbodythrive.com/

    Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations!

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    • Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com

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    Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen.

    Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease.

    Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship does not imply endorsement of any product or service by healthcare professionals featured on this podcast.
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    35 分
  • 463: Breaking Free from Grief: A Doctor's Journey from Devastating Loss to Helping Others Heal with Dr. Cristi Bundukamara

    463: Breaking Free from Grief: A Doctor's Journey from Devastating Loss to Helping Others Heal with Dr. Cristi Bundukamara
    2025/07/08
    What if everything you've been told about healing after loss or trauma and the 5 stages of grief are wrong? Dr. B shares her incredible journey from devastating loss to becoming a beacon of hope for others. After losing three children and her husband over 20 years, this psychiatric nurse practitioner discovered why traditional approaches to grief often keep us stuck - and developed a revolutionary method that actually works. You'll discover why the famous "five stages of grief" are actually harmful, how trauma gets stored in our bodies and impacts our weight, energy, and relationships, and the specific steps you can take to transform your pain into purpose. Dr. B reveals her "Mentally Strong Method" and explains why grief and trauma are completely different - and why understanding this distinction changes everything. This isn't about "getting over" your pain or pretending everything is fine. It's about learning to separate grief (which is your badge of honor) from trauma (which keeps you stuck) so you can finally heal and thrive. If you've ever felt like your past is holding you back from the health, relationships, or life you want, this conversation will give you permission to heal - and show you exactly how to do it. Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube Learn More About Dr. Cristi Bundukamara: Instagram ➜ https://www.instagram.com/cristibundukamara Free E Book ➜ https://mentallystrong.ac-page.com/freebook Mentally Strong Method ➜ https://mentallystrong.com/ Thank you to our show sponsors! AEGIS: Go to https://Aegisformulas.com and use code NatalieJill to get 10% off your next order. Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations! Mastering the Midlife Midsection Guide: https://theflatbellyguide.com/ Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com Connect with me on social media! Instagram: www.Instagram.com/Nataliejllfit Facebook: www.Facebook.com/Nataliejillfit For advertising inquiries: https://www.category3.ca/ Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen. Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease. Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship does not imply endorsement of any product or service by healthcare professionals featured on this podcast.
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    1 時間 7 分
  • 462: Fix Your Sleep in Midlife: 7 Science-Backed Solutions That Actually Work

    462: Fix Your Sleep in Midlife: 7 Science-Backed Solutions That Actually Work
    2025/07/04
    Want to fix your sleep because you’re sick of lying awake at 3 AM even though you've tried what seems like everything? You're doing everything "right" - eating clean, exercising, avoiding screens before bed, drinking herbal tea. You've invested in blackout curtains and the perfect mattress. Yet you're still staring at the ceiling, wondering why your body refuses to cooperate with your desperate need for sleep. In this episode, we're diving deep into the real reasons midlife women struggle with sleep - and they're not what you think. From the shocking impact of modern lighting on your hormones to the surprising connection between mouth breathing and sleep quality, we're uncovering the science-backed solutions that actually work for women over 40. You'll discover why your blood sugar might be waking you up at 3 AM, how your cell phone is sabotaging your sleep cycles, and the one supplement that's clinically proven to increase deep sleep duration. We're also talking about the hormone changes that disrupt sleep and what you can actually do about them. If you're tired of being tired, this episode will give you the tools to transform your sleep starting tonight. Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube Additional Resources Full list of supplements I use and love: https://ageoptimizer.com Magnesium for Deep Sleep: https://midlifeconversations.com/deepsleep Blue Light Blockers: Get your own pair of Viva Rays at https://vivarays.com/nataliejill and use code NATALIEJILL to save 10% EMFs: Visit http://midlifeconversations.com/leela to learn more and use code NATALIEJILL for special pricing. Air Filter: Grab your Jaspr Air Purifier and save http://www.midlifeconversations.com/jaspr - use code NATALIEJILL at checkout Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations! Mastering the Midlife Midsection Guide: https://theflatbellyguide.com/ Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com Connect with me on social media! Instagram: www.Instagram.com/Nataliejllfit Facebook: www.Facebook.com/Nataliejillfit For advertising inquiries: https://www.category3.ca/ Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen. Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease. Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship does not imply endorsement of any product or service by healthcare professionals featured on this podcast.
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    18 分
  • 461: High Cholesterol and What ACTUALLY Causes Heart Attacks with Cardiologist Dr. Joel Kahn

    461: High Cholesterol and What ACTUALLY Causes Heart Attacks with Cardiologist Dr. Joel Kahn
    2025/07/01
    Did you know that heart disease kills more midlife women than cancer, yet, most doctors aren’t testing correctly? Heart disease is super close and personal to me. It’s how I lost my dad when he was just 49…so it really hits home. Most of us think of men when we hear about heart attacks or heart disease, but did you know it’s the #1 killer of women over 45? Yet most of us are completely focused on the wrong risk factors (yep, including most doctors). In this conversation, I sat down with cardiologist Dr. Joel Kahn, who's been practicing for 35 years and has a fascinating perspective that challenges much of what we've been told about heart health (in a great way). We get personal - I share my own labs live on air as Dr. Kahn walks through exactly what these numbers mean and what we should actually be testing for instead of the basic panel most doctors order. We dive deep into why women present with heart disease so differently than men, the tests every woman over 45 should demand from their doctor, and why your calcium score might be more important than your cholesterol number. You’ll discover the real story behind the cholesterol controversy that's been raging since the 1970s, when statins are actually necessary, the shocking connection between how you cook your food and arterial aging, why antibacterial mouthwash might be damaging your blood vessels, and the advanced lab tests that give you real answers about your cardiovascular risk - not just outdated calculations from the 1960s. If you've ever been confused about conflicting advice on saturated fat, wondered if you really need that statin prescription, or want to know what actually protects your heart as you age, this episode provides the clarity you've been searching for. Dr. Kahn brings decades of research and clinical experience to help us separate the marketing from the medicine when it comes to women's heart health. Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube Learn More About Dr. Joel Kahn: Instagram ➜ https://www.instagram.com/drjkahn Website ➜ https://drjoelkahn.com Additional Episode Resources: Prevent Calculator: https://professional.heart.org/en/guidelines-and-statements/prevent-calculator Book: "Lipoprotein(a): The Heart's Quiet Killer" Study Dr. Kahn was co-author on establishing lifelong exposure to either slight reductions in LDL-C or slight elevations determines heart disease risk long term. Widely quoted paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23083789/ The most widely quoted paper establishing LDL-C as a cause, not just risk factor, of atherosclerosis: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28444290/ A recent paper on Lipoprotein(a) cholesterol inherited by 20-25% of people, not currently FDA approved Rx as statins do not work for it, but new Rx med in the pipeline. Similar risk to men and women: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40240882/ Try a bottle of the world’s most delicious artisanal, high-quality olive oils direct from gold-medal-winning small farms for just $1 and taste the difference https://GetFreshNatalieJill.com Thank you to our show sponsors! LIVON: Save $56 (get a free B Complex) with purchase of the Midlife Bundle at http://livonlabs.com/nataliejill Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations! Mastering the Midlife Midsection Guide: https://theflatbellyguide.com/ Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com Connect with me on social media! Instagram: www.Instagram.com/Nataliejllfit Facebook: www.Facebook.com/Nataliejillfit For advertising inquiries: https://www.category3.ca/ Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen. Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease. Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship ...
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    1 時間 22 分
  • 460: My Back Pain Journey, and Why I’m Having Disc Replacement Surgery

    460: My Back Pain Journey, and Why I’m Having Disc Replacement Surgery
    2025/06/27

    After 20 years of living with degenerative disc disease, 13 surgeries, and waking up in pain most mornings, I reveal the raw truth about what it's really like to navigate chronic pain while trying to maintain an active, vibrant life. From the day my leg stopped working completely to the upcoming surgery that could change everything, this deeply personal episode exposes the strategies that actually work—and the ones that don't.

    Discover why that persistent hip pain might actually be your spine crying for help, the three pillars that kept me moving for years when traditional approaches failed, and the shocking reality about what happens when your spine starts "auto-fusing" without your permission. I also reveal my plans for a specialized mobile disc replacement surgery in July. This episode is packed with practical advice for anyone dealing with similar issues, from movement and diet tips to the latest in surgical options.

    If you're one of the 40% of midlife women dealing with back pain, or if you've ever felt like your body has completely turned against you, this episode will change how you think about pain, healing, and what's possible in the second half of life.

    Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube

    Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations!

    • Mastering the Midlife Midsection Guide: https://theflatbellyguide.com/

    • Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com

    Connect with me on social media!

    Instagram: www.Instagram.com/Nataliejllfit

    Facebook: www.Facebook.com/Nataliejillfit

    For advertising inquiries: https://www.category3.ca/



    Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen.

    Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease.

    Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship does not imply endorsement of any product or service by healthcare professionals featured on this podcast.
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    22 分
  • 459: The Truth About Dental Toxins Destroying Your Health with Dr. Michelle Jorgensen

    459: The Truth About Dental Toxins Destroying Your Health with Dr. Michelle Jorgensen
    2025/06/24
    Is your dentist unknowingly poisoning you and destroying your health? That's the shocking question Dr. Michelle Jorgensen had to face when mysterious illness nearly ended her dental career at just 35 years old. After a decade of traditional practice, she developed devastating symptoms—brain fog so severe she couldn't remember patients' names, gut pain that made drinking water unbearable, and nerve damage that left her unable to hold dental instruments. The culprit? Mercury poisoning from drilling out silver fillings without protection for ten years! But Dr. Michelle's personal health crisis became her calling to revolutionize dentistry. Now she's exposing the hidden connections between oral health and chronic disease that could change everything about how you think about your mouth. We dive deep into the dental toxins that might be sabotaging your health—from mercury fillings leaking poison 24/7 to fluoride disrupting your thyroid function. Dr. Michelle reveals why 78% of fatal blood clots contain mouth-only bacteria, why she's never seen a cancer patient without root canals, and the shocking reason dentists have such high suicide rates. But this isn't just about problems—it's about solutions. Learn practical steps you can take right now to protect your health, including how to safely remove mercury fillings, alternatives to root canals that save 85% of "hopeless" teeth, and why switching from fluoride to hydroxyapatite could transform your oral health. Check out Dr. Michelle’s line at http://midlifeconversations.com/livingwell and use code NATALIEJILL to save Catch the full episode on YOUTUBE HERE: https://bit.ly/MidlifeConversationsYouTube Learn More About Dr. Michelle Jorgensen: https://www.instagram.com/livingwellwithdrmichelle http://midlifeconversations.com/livingwell Free Gifts for being a listener of Midlife Conversations! Mastering the Midlife Midsection Guide: https://theflatbellyguide.com/ Age Optimizing and Supplement Guide: https://ageoptimizer.com Thank you to our show sponsors! JUST THRIVE: Visit https://justthrivehealth.com and save 20% on your first 90 day bottle of Just Thrive probiotic with promo code: NATALIEJILL Connect with me on social media! Instagram: www.Instagram.com/Nataliejllfit Facebook: www.Facebook.com/Nataliejillfit For advertising inquiries: https://www.category3.ca/ Disclaimer: Information provided in the Midlife Conversations podcast is for informational purposes only. This information is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice provided by your physician or other healthcare professional. Do not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, or prescribing medication or other treatment. Always speak with your physician or other healthcare professional before making any changes to your current regimen. Information provided in this podcast and the use of any products or services related to this podcast does not create a client-patient relationship between you and the host of Midlife Conversations or you and any doctor or provider interviewed and featured on this show. Information and statements may have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent ANY disease. Advertising Disclosure: Some episodes of Midlife Conversations may be sponsored by products or services discussed during the show. The host may receive compensation for such advertisements or if you purchase products through affiliate links. Opinions expressed about products or services are those of the host and/or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsor. Sponsorship does not imply endorsement of any product or service by healthcare professionals featured on this podcast.
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    56 分