In this episode, Jerry welcomes Newsweek’s Jesse Edwards to unpack the controversy surrounding McDonalds’ decision to step back from its DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) hiring quotas. Together, they explore:

• Why corporations are expected to take stances on social and political issues at all
• How DEI initiatives often lead to further corporate activism — and unintended consequences
• Why these programs often harm the very people they pretend to support

Jesse shares insights from his recent Newsweek article, arguing that complex societal challenges shouldn’t be solved through corporate experiments. As he puts it: “There’s no logical reason to expect a company like McDonald’s to solve these issues by using its workforce as guinea pigs for social engineering.”

Listen in for a candid conversation on the limits of corporate responsibility — and why sometimes, fries should just be fries.

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In Ep. 114, Jerry sits down with Alabama State Auditor Andrew Sorrell. Join us for a fascinating conversation on topics including:

• Sorrell’s personal experience with being debanked
• Who’s the bigger problem in debanking: big banks or regional banks?
• How debanking creates problems in the cryptocurrency industry
• How banking restrictions threaten Second Amendment rights - and how Alabama’s fighting back

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In Episode 113 of Meeting of Minds, Utah State Treasurer Marlo Oaks returns for a compelling discussion on how alternative currencies—especially gold-backed systems—could offer economic resilience and restore financial autonomy to states seeking greater independence from federal monetary policy.

Jerry and Treasurer Oaks explore:

• How gold is strengthening state rainy-day funds in Utah
• The role of precious metals in safeguarding against inflation and economic instability
• The constitutional foundation for issuing gold-backed currency
• Whether Bitcoin and digital assets offer a viable alternative in currency crises

This episode dives deep into the intersection of economics, policy, and freedom—don’t miss it!

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