Marion Tupy is the founder and editor of www.human progress.org and a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. He's also co-author of the Simon Abundance Index.

He specializes in globalization and global wellbeing and is co-author of a recent book called "Superabundance, the Story of Population Growth, Innovation, and Human Flourishing on an Infinitely Bountiful Planet. His articles have been published in The Financial Times, The Washington Post, the LA Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Atlantic, and many more. And he's appeared on the BBC, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, Fox News and many other channels.

Marion's research and conclusions run counter to most of what we hear in the news about the direction of our planet and the direction of our civilization. He and his partner studied 200 years of data to show the actual facts about the progress of humanity and the level of flourishing and abundance we currently have.

We discuss a concept for measuring abundance which he calls "time price" and also talk about whether the planet can sustain the current population at its growth rate. We discuss As you'll see, Marion's data says a lot about the richness of life that we currently have and may be looking to have in the future. I hope you enjoy this conversation because it's certainly helped to shape my perspective.

Show links:
www.human progress.org
Superabundance Book
The Lancet

Show Notes:

[6:37] What creates the overwhelmingly negative narrative about the state of the world.
[14:35] The core thesis of Marian's book Superabundance
[20:16] Marian explains why using time to measure price increases over time is optimal.
[26:52] How much the cost of things has changed in the last 200 years.
[30:26] Happiness statistics.
[35: 38] Individual abundance versus global abundance measurements.
[38:16] What level of population can the world sustain.
[42:47] Why Marian believes we won't ever run out of oil.
[55:34] The importance of a clean abundant natural world and why it's not as bad as some say.
[59:50] The difference between optimism and complacency.
[1:04:46] Does money lead to happiness?
[1:11:39] The greatest risks for future abundance.

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