In Part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Arthur Schwartz, President of Character.org and a leading voice in moral development, we explore what it really takes to build character and live with purpose.

We discuss: - What Really Drives Action: Why character is about behavior, not just beliefs, and how to act on what matters most. - The Power of Purpose: How even simple goals (like a push-up contest) can provide meaning and motivation. - Rewiring Your Inner Voice: How to reshape negative self-talk through daily value-based habits. - The Role of Environment and Culture: How your surroundings shape your character…and how to build the culture you need to grow.

Challenge: Find an image that represents the kind of character you want to build, and keep it somewhere visible as a daily reminder.

Resources:

The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt

Soar with Your Strengths by Donald O. Clifton

The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt

The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt

Chatter by Ethan Kross

Grit by Angela Duckworth

The Path to Purpose by William Damon

Is empathy enough to create real change?

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Arthur Schwartz, President of Character.org and lifelong advocate for character development, about why empathy alone doesn’t create change, and what it really takes to live with integrity, purpose, and courage.

We discuss: - Why Empathy Isn’t Enough: What most people get wrong about empathy, and how too much of it can block justice and enable harm. - Character vs. Compliance: The difference between doing the right thing because you have to vs. because it’s who you are. - Building A Virtue Habit: How Arthur built a gratitude practice from scratch and why small habits matter.

Challenge: Choose a character trait that doesn't come naturally to you, and create a small daily habit to practice it.

Resources:

FREE VIA Character Survey

Soar With Your Strengths by Donald Clifton (Book)

StrengthFinder 2.0 (Book)

Chatter by Ethan Kross (Book)

Character.org

What if your mind was never meant to fit the system?

In this episode, Perry Knoppert shares what happened after he gave everything up, and what he built. From living without a home to founding the Octopus Movement, Perry explores the power of nonlinear thinking and creating outside the lines.

*This is Part 2 of our conversation. In Part 1, Perry shares how his journey began.

We talk about:

• The moment he realized his brain didn’t belong in a linear world
• The difference between creativity and innovation
• What AI can’t do, and why human intelligence has never been more essential
• How fear shapes our world and what it takes to shift from conformity to connection

Challenge (at 00:43:00): Perry shares a personal technique to quiet your mind and access stillness in a noisy world.

The Octopus Movement Website

What happens when someone steps outside the system?

In this episode, Perry Knoppert, founder of The Octopus Movement, shares the story of the seven months he spent without a home. What began as a personal decision rooted in curiosity quickly became a deeper experience of disconnection, challenge, and insight.

With honesty and reflection, Perry talks about:

• Why he gave everything up, and what happened next
• The emotional and mental toll of being unhoused
• The unexpected phone call that helped him begin again

After an overwhelming response to our first conversation, I had to bring Chelsey back for round two! In this follow-up, the licensed psychotherapist and author answers listener questions, breaking down narcissistic behavior and how to heal from toxic relationships.

We explore:

• Grandiose vs. covert narcissists - how they manipulate differently.
• Why narcissists distort reality and avoid responsibility.
• How to rebuild confidence and regain control after narcissistic abuse.

Challenge: At [00:52:00], Chelsey encourages listeners to take one small step toward healing - replace an unhealthy habit with a simple, positive action to strengthen your nervous system and self-trust.

Resources:

Chelsey’s Book: If Only I’d Known

Narcissism Quizzes

Narcissism Resources

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Jody Olsen, former Peace Corps Director and global leader, about embracing courage, building trust, and making bold life decisions. From her unexpected leap into the Peace Corps in the 1960s to leading the evacuation of 7,000 volunteers during the COVID-19 pandemic, Dr. Olsen shares her journey of stepping into the unknown, making high-stakes decisions, and fostering deep human connection across cultures.

We discuss:

• The Decision That Changed Everything - How one moment led Dr. Jody Olsen to the Peace Corps and reshaped her entire life.
• The Power of Vulnerability and Trust - Why embracing uncertainty and relying on others is key to building strong relationships.
• Making Tough Calls Under Pressure - The inside story of how Dr. Olsen led the evacuation of 7,000 Peace Corps volunteers at the height of the pandemic.
• The Loneliness Epidemic & How to Rebuild Meaningful Connections – Why so many people feel disconnected today and practical ways to strengthen relationships in a digital world.

Challenge: At [00:51:47], Dr. Olsen shares her challenge: Tell a story, be a mentor, or find a hero. She urges us to connect more deeply by sharing wisdom across generations, offering guidance to others, and seeking role models in our everyday lives.

Resources: Dr. Jody Olsen’s book, A Million Miles Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam (on the power of community)

In this episode, I talk with Todd Cherches - CEO of Big Blue Gumball, NYU professor, TEDx speaker, and author of Visual Leadership - to explore how visual thinking transforms leadership, communication, and problem-solving. We explore why leadership isn’t just about titles, but about how you see, think, and connect with others.

We discuss:

• Why leadership is about influence - not job titles.
• How visual thinking strengthens memory, communication, and problem-solving.
• The power of metaphors, props, and mental models in making ideas stick and strengthening connections.

Challenge: Todd encourages us to become more aware of the metaphors we use and those used by others. This week, listen for metaphors in everyday conversations and try incorporating ones that resonate with your audience to build better connections.

Resources:

• Todd’s Website
• Book: Visual Leadership: Leveraging the Power of Visual Thinking in Leadership and in Life
• TED Talk: The Power of Visual Thinking

In this episode, I explore the critical role of connection in mental health with Dr. Chinwé Williams - licensed counselor, trauma therapist, and co-author of Beyond the Spiral and Seen. We discuss how anxiety and despair impact the brain, why true healing requires relationships, and how we can foster deeper, more meaningful support systems in our lives.

We discuss:

- Why feeling seen is essential for emotional well-being.

- How connection rewires the brain and reduces anxiety.

- How to help others feel truly heard - without trying to "fix" them.

Challenge: Dr. Chinwé introduces three powerful words, "tell me more," as a tool for deeper connection. This week, practice using this phrase in conversations and notice how it changes the way people open up to you.

Resources: - Dr. Chinwé’s Website - Beyond the Spiral: Why You Shouldn’t Believe Everything Anxiety Tells You - Seen: Healing Despair and Anxiety in Kids Through the Power of Connection