Live from a packed room in NYC, this special Humans of Fintech episode brings two powerhouse voices to the stage: Nina Chmura, Partner at Withum and creator of its Outsourced Accounting Systems & Solutions practice (OASyS), and Amanda Estiverne-Colas, Board Member at the National Alliance for Financial Literacy and Inclusion and long-time champion of innovation, access, and equity in finance.

Nina shares the bold pivot that took her from the partner track to building a “scrappy startup” inside a 2,500-person firm and why she believes relationships, not revenue targets, are the real foundation for growth. Amanda reflects on her career inflection points, from traditional banking to fintech strategy, and the leadership lessons she’s carried into her work in financial inclusion.

Together, they unpack what it means to lead with ambition and humanity, the challenges of building resilient teams in an AI-driven world, and why “there’s no such thing as a simple business” when people are at the center.

Plus: their hardest leadership lessons, the future of innovation in finance, and the one takeaway they hope will stick with you long after the conversation ends.

🎧 Hit play to hear how Nina and Amanda are rewriting the rules of leadership, one bold move at a time.