Nobel Prize biologist François Jacob about night science, "Day science employs reasoning that meshes like gears, where each step follows from the previous one. It is effective. It advances. But it proceeds only because night science exists. It is in the dark of night that science comes closest to its goals. It is there that it reveals itself, probing, groping, resting on intuition, on flashes of insight, on leaps into the unknown."

This week comedian Shane Mauss travels to NYU Medical School to catch up with his friend Atia Yania as they have a laugh-filled conversation about creativity and fun being an essential part of insights even when trying to study something as serious and deadly as cancer.

Itai Yanai is a biomedical scientist and Founding Director of the Institute for Computational Medicine at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine. He is also a professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Pharmacology at NYU.

Learn more about Itai here https://med.nyu.edu/faculty/itai-yanai

And here is his Night Science site https://www.night-science.org/

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For thousands of years donkeys were an integral part of human life. Modern life has taken most of the burden off burros backs but what does the future hold for our equine companions?

Shane takes a deep dive into ungulate evolution and contemplates how hooves ambled their way along various branches on the tree of life to figure out how donkeys even came to exist in the first place.

This week’s guest is Colorado State University, Dr. Sarah King joins the show. In collaboration with USGS, Dr. King leads research on the behavior, ecology, and demography of feral horses and burros in the American west. Through her position as co-chair of the IUCN/SSC Equid Specialist Group, Dr. King works with researchers to conserve endangered equids around the world. Additionally Dr. King is a professional animal trainer, offering training and behavior support for dogs and horses.

If you are in need of dog, horse, or donkey training, check out Sarah’s Brenin Behavior https://breninbehavior.com/ for a free zoom consultation and if you happen to be in Colorado, there are in person opportunities.

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In his latest book, The Decline and Fall of the Human Empire, British paleontologist, evolutionary biologist, and wry wordsmith Henry Gee examines humanity’s precarious journey on the tree of life.

For millions of years, small groups of scrappy, upright apes have lived “one meal away from starvation and two meals away from extinction.” Yet, against all odds, humans went from extras in the drama of life to a lead role in Earth’s history.

Join comedian Shane Mauss and scientist Henry Gee as they share laughs, insights, and philosophies about humanity's past, present, and future. Take a break from the day-to-day grind to explore the unfathomably vast scale of time we miraculously find ourselves existing within.

If you enjoy this episode, be sure to check out Shane and Henry’s two previous conversations on Shane’s long-running science podcast, Here We Are.

If you enjoy this episode, be sure to check out Shane and Henry’s two previous conversations on Shane’s long-running science podcast, https://www.herewearepodcast.com/

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