Former NFL Pro Bowl guard Evan Mathis sits with us for a raw and insightful conversation about the journey behind the stats. He talks candidly about the personal battles that came with being a journeyman in the league, his struggles with emotional control and composure early in his career, and how self-awareness and exposure to new ideas changed the way he lived and competed. We also dive into the lesser-known challenges pro athletes face, including health issues like low testosterone, and how Evan took matters into his own hands to advocate for his well-being in a system that wasn’t designed to support it.
This conversation is about more than football—it's about growth, resilience, and the intangible qualities that define success on your own terms.

Chip Paucek Co-Founder & Co-CEO of Pro Athlete Community (PAC) delves into the journey of personal and professional growth. We talk about how awareness and foundational knowledge can serve as a springboard for future success, particularly highlighting the invaluable impact of community and collaboration in reaching the next level. We discuss how supportive networks and shared experiences within a community can truly propel individuals forward.

In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris sits down with former NFL tight end Marcus Pollard! We dive deep into Marcus's incredibly unique journey to the NFL, which wasn't always a straightforward path. Hear the importance of mental toughness, and his incredible ability to handle adversity both on and off the field. It's a reunion between old teammates, filled with locker room laughs and reminiscing about old times. Don't miss this opportunity to understand the man behind the helmet, and what truly made him a force in the NFL.

NFL linebacker Vince Biegel takes us from cranberry farms in Wisconsin to the big stage of professional football. In this powerful episode, he opens up about family legacy, faith, hard lessons from injury, and the mental grind of life after the game. From being drafted by the Packers to rebuilding purpose in real estate and mentorship, Vince gets real about what it means to chase success—and survive the setbacks.

From the humble farmlands of Union City, Tennessee, to the high-stakes world of NFL general management. Delve into the strategic mind of Jon Robinson as he pulls back the curtain on the intense world of team building. as he pulls back the curtain on the intense world of team building. From navigating delicate quarterback situations and fostering healthy competition to the crucial, unseen qualities that build a winning roster. This episode reveals the true grit and calculated decisions behind the scenes.

Former NFL quarterback DeShone Kizer shares his journey from the football field to the world of startups. He opens up about the pressures of life in the league, what it felt like to step away, and how that decision led him to launch his own tech company.

From his days at Notre Dame to the challenges of finding purpose after football, DeShone talks about identity, mindset, and why he's all-in on building something meaningful. If you're into stories about big pivots, personal growth, and chasing purpose over hype, this one’s for you.

We're sitting down with none other than Ken Rideout, a man who has conquered seemingly disparate worlds. From the intense pressure of Wall Street success to the grip of opioid addiction, Ken's journey is one of dramatic highs and lows. But his story doesn't end there. Tune in to hear how he channeled his resilience and determination to ultimately become a marathon world champion.