The conversation continues! In this thrilling second half of our cross-podcast collaboration, The Growlery joins forces once again with The Gays and Bookworm Babes to unravel the magic, politics, queerness, and dragons of Samantha Shannon’s The Priory of the Orange Tree.

We pick up where we left off—diving deeper into the themes of power, prophecy, and sapphic love that pulse through this epic fantasy. Expect hot takes, character debates, and plenty of passionate (and maybe a little chaotic) book nerd energy.

📚✨ Grab your tea (or mead) and let’s finish this dragon ride together.

Episode starts at: 03:48
Outro starts at: 39:00

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Book is The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon

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Hello! This episode is from the Theys, Gays, and Bookworm Babes podcast where I had the honor of having a conversation with Marz and Hanna on The Priory of the Orange Tree. Thank you to Marz and Hanna for allowing me to share this! This is Part one and Next up is Part 2...so stay tuned.

Episode starts at: 2:39
Outro starts at: 1:04:33

How to find the Theys, Gays, and Bookworm Babes podcast:
email: tgbbpodcast@gmail.com
Insta: @TheysGaysBabes
Twitter (I will never call it X): @TheysGaysBabes
TikTok: @TheysGaysBabes

Book is The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon

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Oh the dreaded feelings of shame ....Well, Today's episode is all about shame and how Murderbot in Artificial Condition, in my opinion demonstrates shame and the journey to build shame resilience as explained by Dr. Brene Brown. Hope you enjoy today's episode and thank you so much for being patient with me in finally getting this episode out.

Next episodes --> Priory of the Orange Tree discussion with Theys, Gays and Bookworm Babes Podcast part 1 and 2

Time Stamps
2:54 - Episode outline
3:49 - Recap on Martha Wells and the story so far
9:41 -Brene Brown and the topic of Shame
23:42 -Murderbot and Shame
39:58 -Final Thoughts
42:02 -Creative Prompt
43:25 -Outro

Brene Brown

• https://brenebrown.com/
• https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/298649/i-thought-it-was-just-me-but-it-isnt-by-brene-brown/

Youtube of Brene Brown

• https://youtu.be/iCvmsMzlF7o?si=ly5fbgZxhGx7RcFH
• https://youtu.be/_UoMXF73j0c?si=AG6-Zsn4xWW_vc8t

Martha Wells

• https://www.marthawells.com/about.htm

A few Resources for Mental Health help (Feel free to let me know of any others to share)

• https://www.nami.org/
• ttps://www.thetrevorproject.org
• https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm

Articles on Shame

• https://www.apa.org/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/guilt-shame
• https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6143989/
• https://psychcentral.com/health/guilt-vs-shame#shame-vs-guilt

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