Texas Ranger James Holland used coercive tactics to get multiple suspects to admit to crimes. This included Larry Driskill, who had no memory of even knowing victim Bobbie Sue Hill, let alone murdering the mother of five. But Holland's extensive interrogations, involving gaslighting, hypnosis, and coaching Driskill through "If I did it..." scenarios led Driskill to confessing. Does that make it true?

We're here to discuss Just Say You're Sorry from Somethin’ Else, The Marshall Project, and Sony Music. Its host is Maurice Chammah.

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More time for crime?

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