Have you ever looked at your life and thought, “Whose dream am I really living?”

In today’s raw and soul-stirring episode, I sit down with Natalini Joy—a former CEO of a global nonprofit who walked away from power, prestige, and a path to becoming the first female president of her country to rediscover who she truly is.

When the opportunity she had been working toward her entire life finally arrived, she made the radical decision to burn it all down and start again—from love, to career, to identity.

What We Talk About:

• What it really looks like to start over in your 30s
• Healing childhood trauma and breaking intergenerational cycles
• Breaking free from toxic relationships and outdated expectations
• Secret to living without fear

Episode Resources:⁠⁠⁠⁠

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ABOUT:

Joyan Chan is an award-winning coach, international speaker, and podcaster. The core of her work centers on helping leaders and entrepreneurs develop unshakable confidence to build a Rockstar personal brand, gain worldwide exposure, and earn recognition for their expertise through podcasting.

Joyan's years of experience as a young lecturer, team leader, and business owner have given her a keen sense of what it takes to become a confident, visible, and impactful leader in today's world.

Her personal journey, which involved transforming depression into empowerment and building her brand from the ground up in just two years, inspired her to create a proven roadmap called "Rookie to Rockstar." It’s the same roadmap she has followed and now uses to guide her clients to launch, market and monetize their podcasts, positioning them as industry ICONs.

Joyan has been featured in numerous magazines, publications, shows and has spoken at many industry events. In March 2022, Joyan was awarded Outstanding Leadership Award on stage in Dubai, UAE. In the same year, she was also named a successful person by Britishpedia.

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What if true leadership isn't about having all the answers—but about being deeply present, fully human, and courageously whole?

Sara spent over 20 years at the helm of high-level leadership—juggling board meetings, speeches, and community commitments, only to realize that somewhere along the way, she had lost touch with parts of herself.

Following the passing of a loved one in 2020, Sara experienced a profound spiritual awakening that cracked open a new way of living, leading, and being.

Remember, you don’t have to abandon success to come home to yourself—you just need the courage to be whole.

What We Talk About:

• The soul of success
• Trusting what you can't prove
• The path to authenticity
• Lead with presence instead of perfection

Episode Resources:⁠⁠⁠⁠

Sara ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Sara ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠

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ABOUT:

Joyan Chan is an award-winning coach, international speaker, and podcaster. The core of her work centers on helping leaders and entrepreneurs develop unshakable confidence to build a Rockstar personal brand, gain worldwide exposure, and earn recognition for their expertise through podcasting.

Joyan's years of experience as a young lecturer, team leader, and business owner have given her a keen sense of what it takes to become a confident, visible, and impactful leader in today's world.

Her personal journey, which involved transforming depression into empowerment and building her brand from the ground up in just two years, inspired her to create a proven roadmap called "Rookie to Rockstar." It’s the same roadmap she has followed and now uses to guide her clients to launch, market and monetize their podcasts, positioning them as industry ICONs.

Joyan has been featured in numerous magazines, publications, shows and has spoken at many industry events. In March 2022, Joyan was awarded Outstanding Leadership Award on stage in Dubai, UAE. In the same year, she was also named a successful person by Britishpedia.

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What if you had not just one brain—but five?

In this mind-expanding episode, I’m joined by Carlos Davidovich, a medical doctor, executive coach, and author of Five Brain Leadership, to explore the groundbreaking neuroscience that’s changing how we think about leadership, decision-making, and human behavior.

Carlos reveals how each of our five “brains”—the head, heart, gut, and two lesser-known systems—play a vital role in how we lead, connect, and navigate high-stakes situations. From stress management to bias awareness, we dive into the science of how great leaders access deeper layers of intelligence, and how you can too.

What We Talk About:

• What the five brains are and how they work together
• How to recognize and rewire your biases
• Manage your energy, not time
• How reliable is your gut instinct?

Episode Resources:⁠⁠⁠⁠

Carlos ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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ABOUT:

Joyan Chan is an award-winning coach, international speaker, and podcaster. The core of her work centers on helping leaders and entrepreneurs develop unshakable confidence to build a Rockstar personal brand, gain worldwide exposure, and earn recognition for their expertise through podcasting.

Joyan's years of experience as a young lecturer, team leader, and business owner have given her a keen sense of what it takes to become a confident, visible, and impactful leader in today's world.

Her personal journey, which involved transforming depression into empowerment and building her brand from the ground up in just two years, inspired her to create a proven roadmap called "Rookie to Rockstar." It’s the same roadmap she has followed and now uses to guide her clients to launch, market and monetize their podcasts, positioning them as industry ICONs.

Joyan has been featured in numerous magazines, publications, shows and has spoken at many industry events. In March 2022, Joyan was awarded Outstanding Leadership Award on stage in Dubai, UAE. In the same year, she was also named a successful person by Britishpedia.

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